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Why do certain type of posters hate Ward so much?
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postthere are some who dont like his style
some didnt like the inactivity, i was frustrated too
some dont like he isnt a power puncher
others say he is a cheater, which we know is far from the truth
there are also some idiots who dont like him because he is Black, kicks ass and makes it look easy.
Ward is pretty hard to dislike.
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Originally posted by PivotandRoll View PostI was tempted to mention this as an exception... But it was nowhere near Floyd/Gatti. It was more of when he landed it hurt way more than expected and he was on point with his gameplan, but he didn't just stand there destroying him from head to toe. A huge part was his gameplan, even the first knockdown was a planned move that Ward suggest right handers throw at southpaws all the time when he commentates. The right straight to the body and then the left hook over the shoulder. Cotto caught Martinez with the same punch quite a few times . People throw around Floyd/Gatti way too easily.
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Originally posted by Zaroku View PostWard is a beast. He's the best! I met the man, class act. He will humiliate Kovalev, and anyone else they put in front of him.
Class! Ward can fight good, real good.
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Originally posted by New England View Posta top 5 p4p fighter with knockouts over every MW he's faced in the last 8 years [including wins over more top 10 contenders than anybody else since he came to america,] hasn't proved "one thing at the top level?"
you guys need to stop this all or nothing rhetoric.
Lemieux and Murray are good wins. Make no mistake about it. I respect GG and I like him. But he needs to establish lineage or move up to 168. He doesn't have to move up in weight yet but sooner or later he should if the big fights at MW never materialize. If he doesn't he will be judged by his MW comp and you see what they are saying even now. Boxing historians will judge him.
He's fighting a WW who isn't even the best WW nor is he a cash machine. He's fighting one of the top WW's where they are hoping that the crowd comes out, and I think that they will. Boxing needs that.
I understand the rush to keep fighting. He's 34 and has maybe 2-3 years left IMO, but his comp just isn't that good at MW because we are used to seeing MW champions past and present, here and abroad tested within 8 years of their career. The greats have all been tested. He has NOT been tested at all so you can't be mad at some fans who don't buy into GG's dominance. I'm one of them, but I'm also open minded. He's winning, and that's all that matters.
Personally, he needs to establish that he is a lineal champion at MW. You can't ride the Canelo duck anymore. He must fight the number 2 guy in the division to establish his lineage even if it's not a big money fight, but I'm old school. Having all of the titles is cool, but he was still handed a title, and I don't blame GG for that. I blame the organization who handed him the title.Last edited by Raggamuffin; 08-25-2016, 05:04 PM.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postwhy would you give credit to a guy who cheats constantly? never understood that one. if he wins legit he gets credit. if he cheats like he did against Kessler he doesn't. seems pretty simple but you are the biased one who will give him credit no matter what he does.
I'm wondering how he's cheating and getting away with it. You don't seem to give him the credit that he deserves and it looks like you're mad at anyone who gives Ward credit for winning.
Butts didn't work for Hamsho against Hagler. Butt's seemed to have worked for Holyfield against Tyson I don't know. Butt's don't win you fights if that is your sole problem with Ward. What else does he do that you have a problem with. Fight at home? What? It seems that you don't like him one bit. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Originally posted by larryusa View PostMy question is why when certain fighters actually beat other elite fighters,(In Floyds case)in 5 different divisions..they still get slammed and given no credit?? but when other(certain) fighters do far, far, far less they get praised?
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