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If PPV, 24/7, and the mass marketing we have today always existed, todays #s are avg.

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  • #11
    You claim to hate Floyd yet all you talk about is him and your avy,and sig is about Floyd..you sound like a woman who got dumped son

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    • #12
      Just Ali's interviews would be PPV in today's world.

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      • #13
        Look at his sig and Avy and post history..all about Floyd who he hates on 24/7 it cant get anymore sad then that./...yea i talk about floyd a lot but DAMN IM A FAN

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        • #14
          Originally posted by CatchweightKing View Post
          Looking back in history at big fights, for instance, Joe Louis and Max Schmeling II, over 70,000 people attended live. Toss in todays technology of tv, closed circuit, the internet, PPV, 24/7, mass marketing, and this fight does 3 million easily, probably 4. The circumstances of the era would push this fight through the roof.

          Ali vs Frazier trilogy. On PPV. 24/7, marketing on tv, radio, print ad, net ads. 5 million for the Thrilla in Manila.

          Don't try to fight it, you know its true.
          thats the dumbest thing ever. Boxing was a much bigger sport back then, therefore you could argue that those fights wouldnt be as big now, espically the US ones. You could also argue that Floyd wouldve been huge back in the day when boxing was a bigger US sport. Its just different eras.

          You cant just take away things from Floyd to benefit your argument without aknowledging the things that were also way better back then. Floyd is doing this in an era where boxing isnt a huge sport in the US anymore unlike guys in the past when it was still the 2nd biggest next to baseball or very close. Thats not even including the fact that he's a lil man.

          The bottom line is that no one else is doing it. Your argument would make sense if it was a ton of guys doing what Floyd is doing but its not. Its just him, then a huge gap and then Pac, then a huge gap and Cotto/Canelo, and then a super huge gap again

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          • #15
            Originally posted by CatchweightKing View Post
            Looking back in history at big fights, for instance, Joe Louis and Max Schmeling II, over 70,000 people attended live. Toss in todays technology of tv, closed circuit, the internet, PPV, 24/7, mass marketing, and this fight does 3 million easily, probably 4. The circumstances of the era would push this fight through the roof.

            Ali vs Frazier trilogy. On PPV. 24/7, marketing on tv, radio, print ad, net ads. 5 million for the Thrilla in Manila.

            Don't try to fight it, you know its true.
            Dempsey - Willard cleared $500,000 in 1919. That's like 5,000,000 today. (10-1 is considered a good avg when you compare house - house, car - car, etc...)

            And that's without radio and TV/PPV.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by DLT View Post
              thats the dumbest thing ever. Boxing was a much bigger sport back then, therefore you could argue that those fights wouldnt be as big now, espically the US ones. You could also argue that Floyd wouldve been huge back in the day when boxing was a bigger US sport. Its just different eras.

              You cant just take away things from Floyd to benefit your argument without aknowledging the things that were also way better back then. Floyd is doing this in an era where boxing isnt a huge sport in the US anymore unlike guys in the past when it was still the 2nd biggest next to baseball or very close. Thats not even including the fact that he's a lil man.

              The bottom line is that no one else is doing it. Your argument would make sense if it was a ton of guys doing what Floyd is doing but its not. Its just him, then a huge gap and then Pac, then a huge gap and Cotto/Canelo, and then a super huge gap again
              Who else sold out Yankee stadium with 70,000 people? Or was that just commonplace for that era?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Money Team. View Post
                Look at his sig and Avy and post history..all about Floyd who he hates on 24/7 it cant get anymore sad then that./...yea i talk about floyd a lot but DAMN IM A FAN
                Quit your crying and actually engage in the topic. If not, you're gone too.

                Is it, or is it not possible, that with todays technology, fights of the past would do bigger numbers?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by CatchweightKing View Post
                  Looking back in history at big fights, for instance, Joe Louis and Max Schmeling II, over 70,000 people attended live. Toss in todays technology of tv, closed circuit, the internet, PPV, 24/7, mass marketing, and this fight does 3 million easily, probably 4. The circumstances of the era would push this fight through the roof.

                  Ali vs Frazier trilogy. On PPV. 24/7, marketing on tv, radio, print ad, net ads. 5 million for the Thrilla in Manila.

                  Don't try to fight it, you know its true.
                  That's something like the beginning of one of Mark Twain's stories "A Dog's Life". ......My father was a St Bernard, my mother was a Collie and I am a Presbyterian...".

                  In actual fact a very important item has been overlooked. When Tyson's biggest fights took place, the dollar has depreciated as much as 75-80%, so Tyson made far higher purses than Mayweather. And with the advertising and ballyhoo of today with the lunatic fans, it would be far greater still.

                  As for Ali's big fights there would also be no comparison, perhaps more so.

                  And...lest we forget, the Louis-Schmeling fight 2 was not just a huge fight, it was a contest between two vastly differing civilisations. The whole country, man, woman and child, was behind Joe Louis. His colour was forgotten, he was an American fighting against the Nazi totalitarian terror machine. a PPV then would have been bought by 15-16 million households, of a population of about 125-130 million people.

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                  • #19
                    I can't even fathom the PPV buys for Ali/Frazier 1. Yikes.

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                    • #20
                      ppv kings joe louis ,muhammad ali and floyd mayweather

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