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  • Originally posted by MarloS04 View Post
    Yes, ruthless. Not as a fighter, but as a selfish guy who gets what he wants.
    Love him or hate him Mutha****er is in control of his business.
    Yup, he is selfish good to know you know that as a fanboy.. But maybe it is more than that, hmm.. Road block for self preservation and good health maybe??

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    • Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
      Not even ruthless or selfish imo, I think he's doing what's best for himself and his family, who on this board or in this life is any different?
      damn and this guy is a known floyd hater.......

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      • Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
        Absolutely, but where I think you go too far is calling Cotto an easy fight and an easy pay day.

        Floyd is fighting Cotto at 154lbs, something Pacquiao wasn't willing to do, it's not as tough on paper as a Pacquiao fight but this isn't an easy bout by any stretch of the imagination.
        Cotto will be competitive but we all know his got mileage and ain't the same cotto of years past. We all know what the outcome here. Cotto's chance ain't that high. Sad but true. Floyd will win this easy. Cotto is already battle worn that is why floyd knows he can come out and fight him now.

        Slow cotto vs floyd = easy pay check.

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        • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
          Then don't call yourself I'm the greatest.

          Pac doesn't go out of his way calling himself 'I'm the greatest' That is the big difference.

          IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT MANTLE OF GREATNESS AT LEAST YOU HAVE TO ACT LIKE IT. WALK THE WALK, NOT ALL BARK AND NO BITE. THAT IS THE OTHER BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALI AND FLOYD. ALI PUT HIS LIFE ON THE LINE AND PROVES HE FIGHTS THE BEST OUT THERE.

          BOXING IS A DEADLY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET HURT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN. simple really.

          Don't tell everyone you are the greatest then cherry picks fights, dodges legit opponents, picks on easy low risk fights. That is not how it works. Either you for self preservation and calculated risk or you are in it for the glory and greatness and risk everything in the ring. Daring to be great is a mark of no fear. That is what great men of boxing is all about.

          If Floyd can't do that, then he has no right saying it, it is an insult to the greats of the game. Daring to be great is climbing Mt. Everest. Floyd isn't that boxer to even be considered as such.
          I think FMJ is willing to fight Pacquiao, but he's no fool, anyone who takes on MP needs to be prepared for it potentially being their last competitive bout (see Margarito's eye, Hatton and De La Hoya's retirement) and against that background it has to be worth it financially - if not then why take the risk?

          If the money and risk/reward isn't right from his perspective, then I wouldn't expect him to take the fight. We're fans, he's thinking about his future.

          Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
          Cotto will be competitive but we all know his got mileage and ain't the same cotto of years past. We all know what the outcome here. Cotto's chance ain't that high. Sad but true. Floyd will win this easy. Cotto is already battle worn that is why floyd knows he can come out and fight him now.

          Slow cotto vs floyd = easy pay check.
          I can't agree. While Floyd is the bookies favourite, it's a very tough fight.

          Cotto may be battle-worn but he's the younger man with a lot of boxing ability and it's not so much about speed as timing.

          Floyd isn't moving around like he once did, he'll stand in front of him which makes Cotto dangerous, probably closer than it would have been in 2007/08 when Floyd looked much more mobile and difficult to get to.

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          • Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
            I think FMJ is willing to fight Pacquiao, but he's no fool, anyone who takes on MP needs to be prepared for it potentially being their last competitive bout (see Margarito's eye, Hatton and De La Hoya's retirement) and against that background it has to be worth it financially - if not then why take the risk?

            If the money and risk/reward isn't right from his perspective, then I wouldn't expect him to take the fight. We're fans, he's thinking about his future.



            I can't agree. While Floyd is the bookies favourite, it's a very tough fight.

            Cotto may be battle-worn but he's the younger man with a lot of boxing ability and it's not so much about speed as timing.

            Floyd isn't moving around like he once did, he'll stand in front of him which makes Cotto dangerous, probably closer than it would have been in 2007/08 when Floyd looked much more mobile and difficult to get to.
            As what we have agreed on. Yes Floyd calculates for health reason. If the risk reward is too high he won't go for it even if it is for legacy.

            Regarding Cotto,

            It's not just about the younger man , being beat up twice like a man who turned into a punching bag ain't good for your health. It's about the wear and tear of the fighter. Comparing Cotto of Old and now you can see a huge decline in performance and speed. Floyd is fresher because of his defensive style he rarely gets hit. He is the fresher guy. In boxing years Cotto is the worn out guy vs floyd the healthy undamaged guy. But to each his own. I just think This will be competitive in the first quarter after that Floyd will pick him apart. Cotto is too slow to get in Floyd's defensive shell.

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            • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
              As what we have agreed on. Yes Floyd calculates for health reason. If the risk reward is too high he won't go for it even if it is for legacy.
              Agreed, but that goes for all fighters, they all fight for money first and foremost.

              Regarding Cotto,

              It's not just about the younger man , being beat up twice like a man who turned into a punching bag ain't good for your health. It's about the wear and tear of the fighter. Comparing Cotto of Old and now you can see a huge decline in performance and speed. Floyd is fresher because of his defensive style he rarely gets hit. He is the fresher guy. In boxing years Cotto is the worn out guy vs floyd the healthy undamaged guy. But to each his own. I just think This will be competitive in the first quarter after that Floyd will pick him apart. Cotto is too slow to get in Floyd's defensive shell.
              I see what you're saying about Cotto, but what you've overlooked is Floyd's own decline. At 35, he's lost the leg movement and mobility, he now has to stand and fight in front of his opponent and as a result he's been tagged by an old Mosley and Victor Ortiz. Cotto is better than those two imo and he still has his movement, this will be a close fight.

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              • Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
                Agreed, but that goes for all fighters, they all fight for money first and foremost.



                I see what you're saying about Cotto, but what you've overlooked is Floyd's own decline. At 35, he's lost the leg movement and mobility, he now has to stand and fight in front of his opponent and as a result he's been tagged by an old Mosley and Victor Ortiz. Cotto is better than those two imo and he still has his movement, this will be a close fight.
                And most fighters don't call themselves the greatest that's the difference. If you call yourself the greatest you should walk the walk.

                Regarding Cotto, Floyd even at 35 is still a lot faster than Cotto so I really can't say Cotto can win unless he gets a lucky punch in. So one of us will be right. Cheers!
                Last edited by Spoon23; 03-05-2012, 02:48 AM.

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                • Mayweather has beaten everyone he has fought. If that ain't legacy you people do not have a clue.

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                  • Originally posted by zab191 View Post
                    Mayweather has beaten everyone he has fought. If that ain't legacy you people do not have a clue.
                    Self preservation, family comes first.. Being great fuvk it.. But He keeps on telling himself he is the greatest lol.. Nowhere near Ali. He ain't for legacy. No super bowl glory, no nba championship game winning shot. Just coasting to make easy winnable fights to rip of boxing fans who are gullible. Legit threats ain't in Floyd's agenda. Sad but true.. After all, It came out of the horse's mouth.

                    IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT MANTLE OF GREATNESS AT LEAST YOU HAVE TO ACT LIKE IT. WALK THE WALK, NOT ALL BARK AND NO BITE. THAT IS THE OTHER BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALI AND FLOYD. ALI PUT HIS LIFE ON THE LINE AND PROVES HE FIGHTS THE BEST OUT THERE.

                    BOXING IS A DEADLY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET HURT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN. simple really.

                    Don't tell everyone you are the greatest then cherry picks fights, dodges legit opponents, picks on easy low risk fights. That is not how it works. Either you are for self preservation and calculated risk or you are in it for the glory and greatness and risk everything in the ring. Daring to be great is a mark of no fear. That is what great is all about.

                    To explain further. If an NBA team is in the playoffs this team wants to go through the steps to reaching the finals. If they are scared of playing against the NBA finals opponent. Can they quite coz they think they will lose? Of course not. They fight till the end of the play-offs. Daring to be the best in the league.

                    All sports are like that. It's like Floyd is already in the NBA finals and the one obstacle for greatness is Pacman for the NBA finals championships. Does he have a right to quit and just duck the game coz he fears losing? Of course not right, in any sport athletes teams want to reach the top. What is lined up for them they play against and try to win it to reach the top. Floyd is lined-up to face Pac, but because we don't have any boxing commission that can force him to fight the best out there. Floyd can duck it coz safety and preservation is his main concern.

                    That in itself is not how any sport should be perceive. Sports is all about obstacles and triumph over hurdles and tough matches. Floyd and Pac are to meet in the finals. This is the NBA finals. You don't quit and duck the finals. You suck it up and fight and prove you are the best in the league. But sadly that is what Floyd did. Duck the finals. The fight everyone in the world wants to see coz he fears Parkinsons, and fears that PAcman might give him that. That said Greatness and Self preservation don't belong in the same sentence. If you fear death don't go in the squared circle. Once you enter the ring, you really are risking your life. If you can't take that leap of fighting the other best. You don't belong in the ring and you should just retire. Boxing is brutal, but the ones who taste greatness and Glory takes risks.

                    if you fear parkinson when you fight real tough fighters. don't fight at all. boxers when they step foot in the squared circle know they are risking their health, if floyd can't handle that get out of the kitchen and retire.

                    Hope that's clear enough.

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                    • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                      Self preservation, family comes first.. Being great fuvk it.. But He keeps on telling himself he is the greatest lol.. Nowhere near Ali. He ain't for legacy. No super bowl glory, no nba championship game winning shot. Just coasting to make easy winnable fights to rip of boxing fans who are gullible. Legit threats ain't in Floyd's agenda. Sad but true.. After all, It came out of the horse's mouth.

                      IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT MANTLE OF GREATNESS AT LEAST YOU HAVE TO ACT LIKE IT. WALK THE WALK, NOT ALL BARK AND NO BITE. THAT IS THE OTHER BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALI AND FLOYD. ALI PUT HIS LIFE ON THE LINE AND PROVES HE FIGHTS THE BEST OUT THERE.

                      BOXING IS A DEADLY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET HURT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN. simple really.

                      Don't tell everyone you are the greatest then cherry picks fights, dodges legit opponents, picks on easy low risk fights. That is not how it works. Either you are for self preservation and calculated risk or you are in it for the glory and greatness and risk everything in the ring. Daring to be great is a mark of no fear. That is what great is all about.

                      To explain further. If an NBA team is in the playoffs this team wants to go through the steps to reaching the finals. If they are scared of playing against the NBA finals opponent. Can they quite coz they think they will lose? Of course not. They fight till the end of the play-offs. Daring to be the best in the league.

                      All sports are like that. It's like Floyd is already in the NBA finals and the one obstacle for greatness is Pacman for the NBA finals championships. Does he have a right to quit and just duck the game coz he fears losing? Of course not right, in any sport athletes teams want to reach the top. What is lined up for them they play against and try to win it to reach the top. Floyd is lined-up to face Pac, but because we don't have any boxing commission that can force him to fight the best out there. Floyd can duck it coz safety and preservation is his main concern.

                      That in itself is not how any sport should be perceive. Sports is all about obstacles and triumph over hurdles and tough matches. Floyd and Pac are to meet in the finals. This is the NBA finals. You don't quit and duck the finals. You suck it up and fight and prove you are the best in the league. But sadly that is what Floyd did. Duck the finals. The fight everyone in the world wants to see coz he fears Parkinsons, and fears that PAcman might give him that. That said Greatness and Self preservation don't belong in the same sentence. If you fear death don't go in the squared circle. Once you enter the ring, you really are risking your life. If you can't take that leap of fighting the other best. You don't belong in the ring and you should just retire. Boxing is brutal, but the ones who taste greatness and Glory takes risks.

                      if you fear parkinson when you fight real tough fighters. don't fight at all. boxers when they step foot in the squared circle know they are risking their health, if floyd can't handle that get out of the kitchen and retire.

                      Hope that's clear enough.

                      May has beaten eveyone he has faced. You can make as much noise as you want.

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