Comments Thread For: Latest PBC on Fox A Smash Hit In The Ring... But Not In the Ratings

[bigdunny1]

So basically more people watched a bunch of unknowns headlined by two guys who are known to be washed up, than watched the best P4P fighter and the supposed hottest guy in the sport. In what turned out to be a very exciting night of knockouts.

Glass half full or glass half empty~

Can't compare premium cable whos competitors are HBO, SHOWTIME, STARZ ect to FOX who's competitors are NBC, CBS, ABC. Its a different platform. last night once again the network (NBC or FOX) finished dead last among networks when they air PBC fights. Not a good trend

Last night prime time ratings
CBS 4.87
ABC 2.02
NBC 2.47
FOX 1.51

[Lester Tutor]

People post a lot of crap on this forum that I don't care about. I don't click on them and damn sure don't complain about them by responding in them. Lol This website not just the forum posts articles about these boxing TV ratings if you don't care shut your mouth and bounce h0e. Plenty of people do.

It's Precise Presenter again!

You're the perfect example of taking the piss since you know fully well the Berto vs Ortiz was just "filler" from a real PBC lineup. The fact there were 4 consecutive knockouts from non big names we know Fox Sports executives aren't going to complain since the cliche of boxing are knockouts.

I like how the OP just generalizes "PBC" as if Fox Sports is the only network that has purchased PBC...

[The Gambler1981]

Then why do more people go to golovkin events? A million people who are just watching boxing because it is on, on a Saturday night, aren't growing the sport. Your argument is contradicted repeatedly by reality and destroyed by the example of Floyd mayweather who fought on ppv and had less viewers than the fight last night on average, yet he was the most popular. Same with pacquiao and countless others. Keep trying, though.

Eyeballs are eyeballs and to become something like Mayweather of Pacquiao being exposed to more of them helps always.

That argument is destroyed by what? You aren't even making any sense because who is more likely to get someone to get the most people to pay $70 for a PPV the guy who got seen by more people or the one that got saw by less. There is an argument to use but you aren't using it~

[kiaba360]

Given how the ratings have been going, this doesn't surprise me. The Showtime ratings will suck too; the only question is will they suck worse than DeGale's and Jack's last SHO bouts. Just because I was entertained last night doesn't mean that I have to ignore the reality that less and less people seem to be tuning in.

[bigdunny1]

Because eyeballs are eyeballs and more of them is better than less, for the sport.

An outlet that offers less limits the growth of the sport, and outlet that can land more helps to build out viewership even if not fully taken advantage of. It takes a long time to really cultivate an audience though, and each event is highly dependent on who is involved.

Pretty easy really.

These networks get well over 1mi viewers during prime time when they air reruns of their TV shows and reality shows they can literally get 1mil viewers just from people falling asleep with the TV on bro. Based on the amount of homes FOX is in these ratings are terrible and no evidence to say this will add any new viewers to the sport. Actually the little evidence we do have says it doesnt. Guys who fight on PBC with more overall viewers then cable when they go back to cable for fights draw fewer not more ratings.

[Lester Tutor]

CBS 4.87
ABC 2.02
NBC 2.47
FOX 1.51

Lol. As if CBS Sports doesn't benefit from PBC...

PBC is basically cradled by CBS Corp.

[The Gambler1981]

Can't compare premium cable whos competitors are HBO, SHOWTIME, STARZ ect to FOX who's competitors are NBC, CBS, ABC. Its a different platform. last night once again the network (NBC or FOX) finished dead last among networks when they air PBC fights. Not a good trend

Last night prime time ratings
CBS 4.87
ABC 2.02
NBC 2.47
FOX 1.51

Sure you can because eyeballs are eyeballs, and fighters seen by more got more exposure. it is a black and white issue either you got seen more or less, and it is not complicated.

You aren't incorrect in that success on one is different than success on another, but that is why Mark Twain used to say "There are lies, damned lies and statistics" because stats can be twisted to fit whatever argument you want and not exactly be wrong. It just isn't that clear cut and we can argue about it all day not getting anywhere because there are ways to argue both sides.

Which should show you there are different ways things could be taken as success or failure but you haven't gotten that concept yet, so hard to figure you will now~

[Vasyl’s dad]

Man, who cares?

We saw some of the best fights we've seen all year. We have 4 exciting KO's.

What kind of fan are you?

You PBC fan boys care. Or else you guys wouldn't always compare numbers. Boxing fans, really don't care. The messed up part is, this is probably the best PBC card in terms of actual excitement and action. But they have constantly put on crap cards which make people not want to tune into. They are too focused on getting their fighters paid than making sure they have excitement that draws in the crowds.

[El-blanco]

Sure you can because eyeballs are eyeballs, and fighters seen by more got more exposure. it is a black and white issue either you got seen more or less, and it is not complicated.

You aren't incorrect in that success on one is different than success on another, but that is why Mark Twain used to say "There are lies, damned lies and statistics" because stats can be twisted to fit whatever argument you want and not exactly be wrong. It just isn't that clear cut and we can argue about it all day not getting anywhere because there are ways to argue both sides.

Which should show you there are different ways things could be taken as success or failure but you haven't gotten that concept yet, so hard to figure you will now~

Failure us losing money on events man. Your spin is pathetic.

[bigdunny1]

It's Precise Presenter again!

You're the perfect example of taking the piss since you know fully well the Berto vs Ortiz was just "filler" from a real PBC lineup. The fact there were 4 consecutive knockouts from non big names we know Fox Sports executives aren't going to complain since the cliche of boxing are knockouts.

I like how the OP just generalizes "PBC" as if Fox Sports is the only network that has purchased PBC...

FOX and NBC are the only free networks that air PBC. And each network has gotten worse ratings then the previous fight basically setting new all time lows in ratings each fight they air. Every other channel that airs PBC is cable and you need to pay for it. But if you want to open the convo to those channels as well virtually everyone of them has seen the same negative trends in ratings. The problem with bad PBC ratings is not isolated to just FOX. Why do you think investors suing because their money was lost on PBC.