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Originally posted by BennyST View PostBasic, straight up fighters that do everything ok, but nothing spectacular. BoJangles is right man, Pac eats this style up without even having to try.
He's too slow, doesn't have the power to hurt Pac, doesn't have the defense or footwork to cause him any overbalance issues as he attacks, and doesn't have the counter punching ability to take advantage of Pac's offense.
He's just a straight forward, basic fighter that does most things by the book to a high caliber, but has nothing special to trouble Pac whatsoever.
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Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View PostYour kidding right?
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Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View PostActually sadam ali was a top welterweight
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Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostNo, he wasn't. http://boxrec.com/boxer/482805 Every win is against a 2 star boxer on boxrec, except one 3 star. Doesn't mean much but just gives a statistical backing to what you can see easily, that the names Ali beat were unknowns. He was never a top welterweight, he has never beaten one or dominated a decent one. Neither has Vargas who was getting blown out before he landed that bomb on Bradley late. Wish the ref hadn't stopped that early, I agree, it's crazy how corrupt or incompetent boxing is... something dramatic finally happens and they just stop the fight. So even the few times dramatic things do happen, they just prevent it from happening anyway. What's the point then? But otherwise Vargas doesnt seem to have good speed OR good power so I'm not really sure what he has? Reach maybe, timing, decent chin maybe. He's a good fighter but he doesn't have elite wins or an elite eye test, IMO. Needs to develop more speed and power to really trouble the top guys.
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Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View PostA 115-113 fight is pretty much just getting past someone... And Tim dominated that kid until he got caught with one shot in the last round...same way Martinez barely got past Chavez Jr. I guess...
He's at the top with Thurman And Brook..Garcia, spence haven't beaten anyone at 147 yet...
Spence KTFO Algieri, who was good enough for Khan and 48.
As for Garcia, he hasnt done much but beat Paulie at WW. But its my opinion he would lay out Timmy. Still havent seen Danny as hurt as Timmy so I'll go with the guy without the cracked chin.
Im not sure why you guys are so hard on for Tim at WW his record there is ****. He was a better 140lber
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