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marco antonio barrera vs juan manuel marquez : prime vs prime
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Originally posted by PD21 View PostDo you mean wasnt in his prime? He started in 1989. No way was he near his peak that night yet he still fought on equal terms and Lederman had him ahead.
Look at their faces at the end. Marquez was wrecked much worse than the 3 pac fights. I know that doesnt determin who won but compubox numbers favoured Barrera too and he had Marquez down.
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Originally posted by MANIAC310 View Postthe basis that a prime Barrera wasn't the boxer he turned into later in his career after getting stopped multiple times.
And when is a prime Barrera to you? To me and to most a prime Barrera is around the 01-03 mark where he was as good a boxer and as skilled as he ever was.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostAnd that means he gets shut out? Because he wasn't the boxer he turned out to be?
And when is a prime Barrera to you? To me and to most a prime Barrera is around the 01-03 mark where he was as good a boxer and as skilled as he ever was.
and Barrera's prime is tricky. He's physical prime wasn't the same as his boxing prime.
I thought he looked past his physical prime in 01-03 but was at his peak when it came to his boxing skills.
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Originally posted by MANIAC310 View Postyes, that means he gets shut out
and Barrera's prime is tricky. He's physical prime wasn't the same as his boxing prime.
I thought he looked past his physical prime in 01-03 but was at his peak when it came to his boxing skills.
He was past his physical peak in 03 but not by much and he was seasoned and skilled. That 03 Barrera is a prime Barrera IMO and he beats Marquez aswell.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostYeah, no. He doesn't get shut out by Marquez. Even a cruder Barrera could beat Marquez let alone get shut out.
He was past his physical peak in 03 but not by much and he was seasoned and skilled. That 03 Barrera is a prime Barrera IMO and he beats Marquez aswell.
and that Barrera wouldn't beat Marquez either, no version of Barrera would beat Marquez. Morales probably would but not Barrera.
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Originally posted by MANIAC310 View PostMarquez shuts him out...... it would be significantly easier than their second fight
Originally posted by MANIAC310 View Postand that Barrera wouldn't beat Marquez either, no version of Barrera would beat Marquez. Morales probably would but not Barrera.
I'd pick a prime Barrera to beat Marquez in a close fight but obviously no version of Marquez shuts out Barrera, even a cruder one.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostWho's second fight?
I just woke up
Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostMorales would.
I'd pick a prime Barrera to beat Marquez in a close fight but obviously no version of Marquez shuts out Barrera, even a cruder one.
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Originally posted by MANIAC310 View PostI was looking at it from a prospective that they would fight in their prime ...which would make their actual fight their second fight...
I just woke up
You're saying that fantasy fight we're talking about would be easier than their second fight (The fantasy fight) hasn't happened.
Originally posted by MANIAC310 View PostThat's fine. That's your opinion mate
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