Best argument on why foreign Boxers need to come to America

[SirTomJones]

It is. But unless your last name is Klitschko, and barring networks unable to reach a compromise, you'll make more coin in the U.S.

Germans really are taking to their boxing.

Brits usually are more supportive of boxers than Americans.

5,000 for the 2 'best' fighters at 168, not to mention it was the final of a tournament. get 5000 at a crappy domestic fight in Britain.

[-Deal With It-]

Germans really are taking to their boxing.

Brits usually are more supportive of boxers than Americans.

5,000 for the 2 'best' fighters at 168, not to mention it was the final of a tournament. get 5000 at a crappy domestic fight in Britain.

The 2 biggest draws in the U.S. (Mayweather & Pacquiao) DWARF the 2 biggest draws in Germany (K bros) as far as what they generate at the box office (gate, ppv revenue etc.) and the purses the earn.

The next biggest draw in the U.S. Cotto, i'm sure earns/generates more than whoever is the next biggest draw in Germany after the Klitschko's (Sturm, Huck or whoever).

Even guys who aren't draws in the U.S. like Sergio, Berto & Bradley are able to earn Million+ dollar purses for fighting nobodies.

You have to seriously LOL at people deluding themselves into believing that fighting primarily out of Europe, is the same as fighting primarily out of the U.S. unless like another poster stated, you're surname is Klitschko.

BTW, didn't Froch's last fight in his hometown of Nottingham against Dirrell draw no more than 7,000 fans? Those are the type of numbers Andre Ward does in Oakland, sometimes more. If 7,000 is all he can draw in his own hometown, could you imagine the abyssmal showing he would have fighting on the completely opposite side of the country?

[-Deal With It-]

And lets not forget Marquez & Morales, who have spent the predominate portion of their careers fighting primarily out of the U.S.

Both, likely have bigger drawing power & earn larger purses than anybody outside of the Klitschko's in either Germany or the UK.

[Taranazan]

You often hear this argument, "Why don't the American's come to Germany or UK. Not quite the same and Malignaggie said it best:




“When you fight an American in America, it’s not nearly the same as fighting a German in Germany, a British guy in Great Britain, or even a Ukrainian in Ukraine,” Malignaggi said. “In America, they don’t give a **** if you’re American or not. They’re not going to give you any special treatment unless you’re fighting the guy in his immediate backyard, like right outside his door or hometown.

“If you want to be legitimately respected on a world level, and you haven’t fought in America, I don’t care what belt you have, you can’t be taken too seriously. And based on Senchenko’s unwillingness to come to America and also his resume which speaks for itself, if he has some kind of go-getter attitude or mentality, he should want to come to America and defend his title.”


Link: http://www.boxingscene.com/malignagg...e-later--48122

Your right, american fans don't support their boxers like other countries' fans do. But it doesn't change anything. The fans aren't the ones who decide of the result. The judges do. And judges are as corrupted in the USA than in any other country with a well organized athletic commission.

No matter what, Americans will always find an excuse why foreign fighters must fight there to be recognized. I'm Canadian, and for years we were told that our fighters had to fight in the USA because that's where the money was. Now that it isn't the case anymore, other excuses are made. Like there isn't any robbery in favor of an american in the USA. Or that every fight in other countries are corrupted.

[SirTomJones]

BTW, didn't Froch's last fight in his hometown of Nottingham against Dirrell draw no more than 7,000 fans? Those are the type of numbers Andre Ward does in Oakland, sometimes more. If 7,000 is all he can draw in his own hometown, could you imagine the abyssmal showing he would have fighting on the completely opposite side of the country?

Froch draws more Ward, even with the great population advantage ward has.

they would do same numbers at least if they thought bute in their hometowns despite froch losing in the final.

[jreckoning]

It is. But unless your last name is Klitschko, and barring networks unable to reach a compromise, you'll make more coin in the U.S.

I don't agree with this. On the very highest level, sure you'd probably make more, but many trainers and managers have told me the coin in Germany is no joke.

And none of these guys were fighting Klitschko or any of the cash cows.

[HeroBando]

The 2 biggest draws in the U.S. (Mayweather & Pacquiao) DWARF the 2 biggest draws in Germany (K bros) as far as what they generate at the box office (gate, ppv revenue etc.) and the purses the earn.

The next biggest draw in the U.S. Cotto, i'm sure earns/generates more than whoever is the next biggest draw in Germany after the Klitschko's (Sturm, Huck or whoever).

Even guys who aren't draws in the U.S. like Sergio, Berto & Bradley are able to earn Million+ dollar purses for fighting nobodies.

You have to seriously LOL at people deluding themselves into believing that fighting primarily out of Europe, is the same as fighting primarily out of the U.S. unless like another poster stated, you're surname is Klitschko.

BTW, didn't Froch's last fight in his hometown of Nottingham against Dirrell draw no more than 7,000 fans? Those are the type of numbers Andre Ward does in Oakland, sometimes more. If 7,000 is all he can draw in his own hometown, could you imagine the abyssmal showing he would have fighting on the completely opposite side of the country?

Overall there's more money to be made in the US, but you gotta be with the right promoter, eg Austin Trout or any Don King fighter. Or in a featured division, see Steve Cunningham.

Of course, most foreign guys (not all of course, and by "foreign" exclude Mexico) are brought in as opponents, it's not good business if they win. Some are able to parlay it into good money, like Martinez, but it's usually a long road. It helps to have an exciting style, good looks, and/or speak English fluently, Spanish a plus.

There's also examples of fighters making way more in their home market, like Kessler, Bute, Haye, Mundine/Green, even my guy Pirog (who if he was American, would probably be promoted by Main Events lol). It's a big fish/little pond sort of thing.

[D-MiZe]

Froch is a bad example to use, he's unknown over here.

How many fans did the likes of Hatton/Calzaghe/Lewis draw over here is what should be in question.

[SirTomJones]

Froch is a bad example to use, he's unknown over here.

How many fans did the likes of Hatton/Calzaghe/Lewis draw over here is what should be in question.

froch still draws more than ward.

[Weebler I]

They’re not going to give you any special treatment unless you’re fighting the guy in his immediate backyard, like right outside his door or hometown.

So why does he want to fight Senchenko in NYC, his hometown?

Cos he wants special treatment. Man up and fight the champion in his own country.

“If you want to be legitimately respected on a world level, and you haven’t fought in America

Wrong. If you want to be respected by US boxing writers you have to fight in America, significant difference.

Foreign fighters don't fight in the US for respect, their world title belts make them legitimately respected, they fight in the US for the financial benefits and that's it.