The winner of Ward-Dawson is no worse than #3 p4p?

[JBell11]

I'm sorry... Ward is only as good as his opposition and the only notable wins in my opinion is froch and maybe bika. Abraham, Kessler, Green didn't have the boxing skills and knowledge to beat ward. Let's be fair, Dawson on the other hand has fought solid boxers although aged, in Tarver, Johnson, and Hopkins. The bull has been a chasing these cats for years... When Dawson was where ward is at today. I'd say they are about even with respect to the last few years with a slight edge for Dawson. Plus gets more points for hitting holms up at his weight and backyard. I'd write off the pascal loss and call it a fluke. Any... Dawson is better than ward.


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[FIGHTING_FLIP]

I'm sorry... Ward is only as good as his opposition and the only notable wins in my opinion is froch and maybe bika. Abraham, Kessler, Green didn't have the boxing skills and knowledge to beat ward. Let's be fair, Dawson on the other hand has fought solid boxers although aged, in Tarver, Johnson, and Hopkins. The bull has been a chasing these cats for years... When Dawson was where ward is at today. I'd say they are about even with respect to the last few years with a slight edge for Dawson. Plus gets more points for hitting holms up at his weight and backyard. I'd write off the pascal loss and call it a fluke. Any... Dawson is better than ward.


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Kessler was the favorite to win the tournament and was arguably number 1 at SMW

[Bushbaby]

Kessler was the favorite to win the tournament and was arguably number 1 at SMW

Not only was Kessler the favorite, Abraham was #2. Ward dominated them both.

[Larry the boss]

Kessler was the favorite to win the tournament and was arguably number 1 at SMW

Yea people forget that fact..

[bojangles1987]

Dawson wouldn't deserve that.

[Tmb04]

Not only was Kessler the favorite, Abraham was #2. Ward dominated them both.

Maybe on paper Kessler was, or better yet to the untrained eye he was. I said way back before the Super 6 started that Kessler was overrated. I mean I give the guy props for his limited accomplishments, He was decent. A good solid win over Froch. Lopsided loss to Calzaghe.. Never really impressed me. Before the Tourney I had Ward winning it undefeated. Just my opinion on seeing him come up the ranks on Showtime. Forget the level of opposition he fought before the super 6, It's the Way he made it look when he won. I knew he would be a star.

So even though he won a gold medal, hasn't lost since he was 12, and leading up to the Super 6 DOMINATED everybody he fought, him being a rookie he was still considered an underdog? He went through Kessler like I knew he would, beat his substitutes just as easily, dominated Abraham in an easy fight, and Dominated Froch in an easy fight that I thought the scorecards were crooked.

Idk, Either way Dawson is a way more credible win than Kessler or Froch. Even at 168.. If Ward does it impressively, I could put him at an easy number 2. just my opinion

[FeFist]

I'm sorry... Ward is only as good as his opposition and the only notable wins in my opinion is froch and maybe bika. Abraham, Kessler, Green didn't have the boxing skills and knowledge to beat ward. Let's be fair, Dawson on the other hand has fought solid boxers although aged, in Tarver, Johnson, and Hopkins. The bull has been a chasing these cats for years... When Dawson was where ward is at today. I'd say they are about even with respect to the last few years with a slight edge for Dawson. Plus gets more points for hitting holms up at his weight and backyard. I'd write off the pascal loss and call it a fluke. Any... Dawson is better than ward.


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What a stupid post, so because Abraham, Kessler and Green lacked the skill to beat Ward those victories shouldn't be acknowledged?

[Johnwoo8686]

P4P is basically a mythical list to decide how these guys would match up against each other if they were all the same size. For those of you having a hard time making your list try to imagine all these guys as being the same size and having them all fight one another. Who do you think would be the last man standing?

My list is
Mayweather
Pacquiao
Ward
Martinez
Donaire

[Johnwoo8686]

What a stupid post, so because Abraham, Kessler and Green lacked the skill to beat Ward those victories shouldn't be acknowledged?

Yeah I hate that argument. People use the same argument for Mayweather. The entire idea of you not deserving credit for a win simply because you're better than a guy is stupid. What better way can you prove you're better than somebody than by beating them?

[jayjames616]

I'm sorry... Ward is only as good as his opposition and the only notable wins in my opinion is froch and maybe bika. Abraham, Kessler, Green didn't have the boxing skills and knowledge to beat ward. Let's be fair, Dawson on the other hand has fought solid boxers although aged, in Tarver, Johnson, and Hopkins. The bull has been a chasing these cats for years... When Dawson was where ward is at today. I'd say they are about even with respect to the last few years with a slight edge for Dawson. Plus gets more points for hitting holms up at his weight and backyard. I'd write off the pascal loss and call it a fluke. Any... Dawson is better than ward.


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What the hell are you talking about? Kessler has more boxing skills then Froch and Bika. Because Ward has more boxing skills than his opponents hurts his ranking lmao That makes zero sense. Being more skilled helps your ranking atleast in the mind of someone with ANY common sense.

Kessler and Abraham were the Super 6 favorites and Ward made easy work of them.