To answer your question TS, everyone at the top is skilled. Some may not be silky smooth like Money Maiii but they're definitely skilled.
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Originally posted by revs1227 View Postyour a complete fuking moron to think it is even possible to get anywhere near a world title without being skilled
this site if full of fuking douchebag morons
hatton ? really ? no skill?
WBC International Light Welterweight Title (2007)
IBO Light Welterweight Title (January 2007 - May 2009)
WBU Light Welterweight Title (2001 - 2005)
BBBofC Light Welterweight Title (2000)
WBA Inter-Continental Light Welterweight Title (2000)
WBO Inter-Continental Light Welterweight Title (1999 - 2000)
BBBofC Central Area Light Welterweight Title (1999)
World Titles
IBF Light Welterweight Title (2)
WBA World Welterweight Title
WBA Super World Light Welterweight Title
IBF Light Welterweight Title (1)
Awards & Recognition
2005 Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year: Hatton is the first British boxer to receive the award since its inception in 1928
2005 ESPN.com Fighter of the Year
Mens Fitness Magazine's Fittest Sportsman
2007 Awarded the honor of Order of the British Empire - Member (MBE)
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ARCE ? NO SKILL ?.........
IBF International Super Flyweight Title (2009)
Interim WBA World Super Flyweight Title (September 2008 - February 2009)
WBC Latino Bantamweight title (2007)
Interim WBC Flyweight Title (2005)
Interim WBC Light Flyweight Title (October 2001 - July 2002)
WBC Youth World Light Flyweight Title (2000)
NABO Light Flyweight Title (1998 - 1999)
WBA Fedecentro Light Flyweight Title (November 1997 - December 1997)
Mexico Pacific Coast Light Flyweight Title (1997)
World Titles
WBO Bantamweight Title
WBO Super Bantamweight Title
WBO Super Flyweight Title
WBC Light Flyweight Title
WBO Light Flyweight Title
DO U REALLY THINK U CAN DO EVEN ONE OF THESE THINGS W.O SKILL
TRY GETTING IN THE RING
IDIOTS
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Originally posted by -PANDA- View Posterrr no we don't...if i were to judge a boxer by his skill there'd be at least a dozen variables i'd test: adaptability, counterpunching, defense, footwork (like u mentioned) etc. u don't judge a basketball player more by how high he jumps than how well he shoots do u? u rate both...and if he can't shoot well...then that at least makes him lesser skilled
thats one way of looking at it...another is if he had a D would he have lost to pac/may? wouldnt he have been fighting at the highest level for longer than he did? wouldnt he have accomplished more?
Hatton is an interesting case because of his exploits outside of the ring and the constant blowing-up between fights and bad drug/drink habits. Even with a D, his life outside of the ring was definitely detrimental to his life inside of it.
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Well they're all skilled, Rios, Maidana, Margarito, Hatton and anyone else you guys have named are skilled. They know the fundamentals, some just prefer to ignore them and like fighting. Like Rios. They wouldn't be where they are without skills. Now granted they may not be as skilled as Mayweather, Marquez, or Martinez but they're still skilled in their own right.
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Originally posted by hectari View PostJean Pascal
Held a title and has no skills at all, no jab, just throws wild flurries.
Ricardo Mayorga is another one.
Also, Seth Mitchell sucks IMO.
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Dennis Andries is a prime example of a man who used his sheer strength, heart, fitness and mental toughness to get the very top.......
He was an ugly, incredibly basic, mauling fighter who was effectively sent back to school to learn how to box properly having been hammered by Thomas Hearns in a WBC light heavyweight title fight.
Andries, somewhat amazingly was actually the defending WBC champ in that fight against Hearns.
Virtually every shot Hearns threw caught Andries flush on the chin but still Andries got up and came surging back and the fight is a classic, real-life example of the Rocky Slugger trying to upset the odds against an utterly more skilled and superior opponent.
Andries impressed everyone with his bravery and heart and ended-up going to the Kronk gym after that Hearns defeat to learn how to slip a punch and use his power to throw a decent power shot.
Andries would then go on to have three classic wars with Jeff Harding for the same WBC belt - losing the decider - when the equally rock-hard Harding opted to box his way to the title.
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brandon rios (the king)
antonio margarito
jean pascal
ricardo mayorga
julio cesar chavez, jr.
tavoris cloud
off the top of my head...
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