Mexico, 22 vs Puerto Rico, 41 - Lets name the Fights

[Mr. Fantastic]

benitez and gomez are both from rio piedras.


well then stop saying benitez isn't rican.


camacho was moving back and forth.

I C, ty for the info. I'm just going with what it says on Wiki.

[NAPO]

I C, ty for the info. I'm just going with what it says on Wiki.

remember wikipedia is not 100% not even 80% ppl who relies on wikipedia are in for a long run.

[Mr. Fantastic]

remember wikipedia is not 100% not even 80% ppl who relies on wikipedia are in for a long run.

Thats why I said TY for the info man.

[mrpain81]

good thread, best rivalry in boxing history.

[El Chicano]

good thread, best rivalry in boxing history.

I agree completely, there is none greater.

[El Chicano]

So Napo has done some serious research, giving up his entire Saturday night to find some PR title wins over Mexicans. Props to Napo and his researching skills. The tally now stands at 32 Mexico, 39 PR. Here are the fights which I've verified on BoxRec.

Mexico - 32
Alberto Jimenez vs Jose Lopez
Antonio Margarito vs Kermit Cintron I
Antonio Margarito vs Kermit Cintron II
Antonio Margarito vs Miguel Cotto
Carlos Zarate vs Andres Hernandez
Enrique Sanchez vs Rafael Del Valle
Erik Morales vs Angel Chacon
Fernando Montiel vs Jose Lopez
Genaro Leon vs Danny Garcia
Gilberto Roman vs Juan Carazo
Hugo Cazares vs Alex Sanchez
Hugo Cazares vs Nelson Dieppa I
Hugo Cazares vs Nelson Dieppa II
Isidro Garcia vs Jose Lopez
Isidro Perez vs Angel Rosario
Jose Luis Ramirez vs Edwin Rosario II
Jose Quirino vs Jose Ruiz
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Angel Hernandez
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Edwin Rosario
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Juan La Porte
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Sammy Fuentes
Marco Antonio Barrera vs Daniel Jimenez
Marco Antonio Barrera vs Orlando Fernandez
Martin Castillo vs Eric Morel
Pepino Cuevas vs Angel Espada I
Pepino Cuevas vs Angel Espada II
Pepino Cuevas vs Angel Espada III
Ricardo Lopez vs Alex Sanchez
Salvador Sanchez vs Juan La Porte
Salvador Sanchez vs Wilfredo Gomez
Victor Burgos vs Alex Sanchez

Puerto Rico - 39
Alex Sanchez vs Victor Burgos
Alex Sanchez vs Oscar Andrade
Alex Sanchez vs Rafael Orozco
Alex Sanchez vs Tomas Rivera
Alfredo Escalera vs Sigfredo Rodriguez
Carlos De Leon vs Alvaro Yaqui Lopez
Carlos Ortiz vs Reymundo Torres
Daniel Santos vs (BULL****) Antonoio Margarito II
Daniel Santos vs Ramon Luis Campas
Edwin Rosario vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1
Eric Morel vs Isidro Garcia
Esteban De Jesus vs Vicente Saldivar
Felix Trinidad vs Ramon Campas
Hector Camacho vs Jose Luis Ramirez
Hector Camacho vs Rafael Limon
Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares 1
Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares 2
Ivan Calderon vs LorenzoTrejo
Ivan Calderon vs Roberto Carlos Leyva
John John Molina vs Goyo Vargas
John John Molina vs Manuel Medina
Jose De Jesus vs Isidro Perez
Jose De Jesus vs Fernando Martinez
Jose Ruiz vs Armando Velasco
Josue Camacho vs Eddie Vallejo
Juan Manuel Lopez over Cesar Figueroa
Juan Manuel Lopez over Daniel Ponce De Leon
Miguel Cotto vs Alfonso Gomez
Nelson Dieppa vs Ulises Solis
Samuel Fuentes vs Fidel Avendano
Samuel Fuentes vs Hector Lopez
Sixto Escobar vs Rodolfo Casanova
Wilfred Benitez vs Carlos Palomino
Wilfredo Gomez vs Carlos Zarate
Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Antonio Lopez
Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Meza
Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
Wilfredo Gomez vs Raul Tirado
Wilfredo Gomez vs Roberto Rubaldino

Rivera, for the third time is not Puerto Rican. He was born in and resides in the U.S.

And also for the third time, Oscar and Fernando don’t count, sorry.

And that first Santos vs Margarito fight was a NC.

Mario Martinez was from Nicaragua.

Eric Morel vs Tomas Rivera was not a championship fight.

[El Chicano]

Guess What?

I found another one for PR (while I was looking for fights on BoxRec)

In my research I found that Mexican Champions generally fought not only other Mexicans, but fighters from all countries.

Puerto Rican Champions generally fought Mexican tomato cans.

Anyway, here's the count:

Mexico - 32
Alberto Jimenez vs Jose Lopez
Antonio Margarito vs Kermit Cintron I
Antonio Margarito vs Kermit Cintron II
Antonio Margarito vs Miguel Cotto
Carlos Zarate vs Andres Hernandez
Enrique Sanchez vs Rafael Del Valle
Erik Morales vs Angel Chacon
Fernando Montiel vs Jose Lopez
Genaro Leon vs Danny Garcia
Gilberto Roman vs Juan Carazo
Hugo Cazares vs Alex Sanchez
Hugo Cazares vs Nelson Dieppa I
Hugo Cazares vs Nelson Dieppa II
Isidro Garcia vs Jose Lopez
Isidro Perez vs Angel Rosario
Jose Luis Ramirez vs Edwin Rosario II
Jose Quirino vs Jose Ruiz
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Angel Hernandez
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Edwin Rosario
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Juan La Porte
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Sammy Fuentes
Marco Antonio Barrera vs Daniel Jimenez
Marco Antonio Barrera vs Orlando Fernandez
Martin Castillo vs Eric Morel
Pepino Cuevas vs Angel Espada I
Pepino Cuevas vs Angel Espada II
Pepino Cuevas vs Angel Espada III
Ricardo Lopez vs Alex Sanchez
Salvador Sanchez vs Juan La Porte
Salvador Sanchez vs Wilfredo Gomez
Victor Burgos vs Alex Sanchez

Puerto Rico - 40
Alex Sanchez vs Victor Burgos
Alex Sanchez vs Oscar Andrade
Alex Sanchez vs Rafael Orozco
Alex Sanchez vs Tomas Rivera
Alfredo Escalera vs Sigfredo Rodriguez
Carlos De Leon vs Alvaro Yaqui Lopez
Carlos Ortiz vs Reymundo Torres
Daniel Santos vs (BULL****) Antonoio Margarito II
Daniel Santos vs Ramon Luis Campas
Edwin Rosario vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1
Eric Morel vs Isidro Garcia
Eric Morel vs Gilberto Keb Baas
Esteban De Jesus vs Vicente Saldivar
Felix Trinidad vs Ramon Campas
Hector Camacho vs Jose Luis Ramirez
Hector Camacho vs Rafael Limon
Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares 1
Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares 2
Ivan Calderon vs Lorenzo Trejo
Ivan Calderon vs Roberto Carlos Leyva
John John Molina vs Goyo Vargas
John John Molina vs Manuel Medina
Jose De Jesus vs Isidro Perez
Jose De Jesus vs Fernando Martinez
Jose Ruiz vs Armando Velasco
Josue Camacho vs Eddie Vallejo
Juan Manuel Lopez over Cesar Figueroa
Juan Manuel Lopez over Daniel Ponce De Leon
Miguel Cotto vs Alfonso Gomez
Nelson Dieppa vs Ulises Solis
Samuel Fuentes vs Fidel Avendano
Samuel Fuentes vs Hector Lopez
Sixto Escobar vs Rodolfo Casanova
Wilfred Benitez vs Carlos Palomino
Wilfredo Gomez vs Carlos Zarate
Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Antonio Lopez
Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Meza
Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
Wilfredo Gomez vs Raul Tirado
Wilfredo Gomez vs Roberto Rubaldino

[Miburo]

Title fights bud

And Hernandez vs Escalera was a draw

Samuel Serrano did beat Hernandez so u can add that.

Escalera-Rodriguez was a title fight. The draw should be counted 1-1 I suppose.

[El Chicano]

Escalera-Rodriguez was a title fight. The draw should be counted 1-1 I suppose.

Escalera vs Rodriguez has been counted.

Leonel Hernandez is from Venezuela.

[NAPO]

So Napo has done some serious research, giving up his entire Saturday night to find some PR title wins over Mexicans. Props to Napo and his researching skills. The tally now stands at 32 Mexico, 39 PR. Here are the fights which I've verified on BoxRec.

Mexico - 32
Alberto Jimenez vs Jose Lopez
Antonio Margarito vs Kermit Cintron I
Antonio Margarito vs Kermit Cintron II
Antonio Margarito vs Miguel Cotto
Carlos Zarate vs Andres Hernandez
Enrique Sanchez vs Rafael Del Valle
Erik Morales vs Angel Chacon
Fernando Montiel vs Jose Lopez
Genaro Leon vs Danny Garcia
Gilberto Roman vs Juan Carazo
Hugo Cazares vs Alex Sanchez
Hugo Cazares vs Nelson Dieppa I
Hugo Cazares vs Nelson Dieppa II
Isidro Garcia vs Jose Lopez
Isidro Perez vs Angel Rosario
Jose Luis Ramirez vs Edwin Rosario II
Jose Quirino vs Jose Ruiz
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Angel Hernandez
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Edwin Rosario
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Hector Camacho
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Juan La Porte
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Sammy Fuentes
Marco Antonio Barrera vs Daniel Jimenez
Marco Antonio Barrera vs Orlando Fernandez
Martin Castillo vs Eric Morel
Pepino Cuevas vs Angel Espada I
Pepino Cuevas vs Angel Espada II
Pepino Cuevas vs Angel Espada III
Ricardo Lopez vs Alex Sanchez
Salvador Sanchez vs Juan La Porte
Salvador Sanchez vs Wilfredo Gomez
Victor Burgos vs Alex Sanchez

Puerto Rico - 39
Alex Sanchez vs Victor Burgos
Alex Sanchez vs Oscar Andrade
Alex Sanchez vs Rafael Orozco
Alex Sanchez vs Tomas Rivera
Alfredo Escalera vs Sigfredo Rodriguez
Carlos De Leon vs Alvaro Yaqui Lopez
Carlos Ortiz vs Reymundo Torres
Daniel Santos vs (BULL****) Antonoio Margarito II
Daniel Santos vs Ramon Luis Campas
Edwin Rosario vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1
Eric Morel vs Isidro Garcia
Esteban De Jesus vs Vicente Saldivar
Felix Trinidad vs Ramon Campas
Hector Camacho vs Jose Luis Ramirez
Hector Camacho vs Rafael Limon
Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares 1
Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares 2
Ivan Calderon vs LorenzoTrejo
Ivan Calderon vs Roberto Carlos Leyva
John John Molina vs Goyo Vargas
John John Molina vs Manuel Medina
Jose De Jesus vs Isidro Perez
Jose De Jesus vs Fernando Martinez
Jose Ruiz vs Armando Velasco
Josue Camacho vs Eddie Vallejo
Juan Manuel Lopez over Cesar Figueroa
Juan Manuel Lopez over Daniel Ponce De Leon
Miguel Cotto vs Alfonso Gomez
Nelson Dieppa vs Ulises Solis
Samuel Fuentes vs Fidel Avendano
Samuel Fuentes vs Hector Lopez
Sixto Escobar vs Rodolfo Casanova
Wilfred Benitez vs Carlos Palomino
Wilfredo Gomez vs Carlos Zarate
Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Antonio Lopez
Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Meza
Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
Wilfredo Gomez vs Raul Tirado
Wilfredo Gomez vs Roberto Rubaldino

Rivera, for the third time is not Puerto Rican. He was born in and resides in the U.S.

And also for the third time, Oscar and Fernando don’t count, sorry.

And that first Santos vs Margarito fight was a NC.

Mario Martinez was from Nicaragua.

Eric Morel vs Tomas Rivera was not a championship fight.

it took me only 10 minutes i had it on file.