Monzon v's Hagler's title fights

[Humean]

Both in terms of quality of opposition and the manner of their performances which middleweight championship career was more impressive, Monzon's or Hagler's?

I do think Monzon's opposition probably has a bit more variety in terms of style although Hagler's opposition perhaps had more power.

Monzon 15-0-0
Benvenuti x2
Griffith x2
Valdez x2
Bouttier x 2
Moyer
Bogs
Briscoe
Napoles
Mundine
Licata
Tonna

Hagler 13-1-1
Hamsho x2
Obelmeijias x2
Antuofermo x2
Minter
Lee
Sibson
Scypion
Duran
Roldon
Hearns
Mugabi
Leonard

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Both in terms of quality of opposition and the manner of their performances which middleweight championship career was more impressive, Monzon's or Hagler's?

I do think Monzon's opposition probably has a bit more variety in terms of style although Hagler's opposition perhaps had more power.

Monzon 15-0-0
Benvenuti x2
Griffith x2
Valdez x2
Bouttier x 2
Moyer
Bogs
Briscoe
Napoles
Mundine
Licata
Tonna

Hagler 13-1-1
Hamsho x2
Obelmeijias x2
Antuofermo x2
Minter
Lee
Sibson
Scypion
Duran
Roldon
Hearns
Mugabi
Leonard

I will leans towards Hagler.. Most of the name fighters on his resume were either prime or close to it.. Monzon had a tad more faded names..

[rightsideup]

Valdez is one of the most underrated middleweight fighters ever gave Carlos all he could handle.

[IronDanHamza]

Monzon for me.

[The Old LefHook]

Both in terms of quality of opposition and the manner of their performances which middleweight championship career was more impressive, Monzon's or Hagler's?

I do think Monzon's opposition probably has a bit more variety in terms of style although Hagler's opposition perhaps had more power.


Monzon 15-0-0
Benvenuti x2
Griffith x2
Valdez x2
Bouttier x 2
Moyer
Bogs
Briscoe
Napoles
Mundine
Licata
Tonna

Hagler 13-1-1
Hamsho x2
Obelmeijias x2
Antuofermo x2
Minter
Lee
Sibson
Scypion
Duran
Roldon
Hearns
Mugabi
Leonard

This is a good thread idea. Of course, no one agrees already, and unfortunately an answer can only come in the form of an opinion. That is what you have asked for.

Benvenuti is maybe a near-great. Valdez was indeed very good. Griffith was old and a welterweight. I cannot remember Bouttier or Bogs. Moyer was not much. Briscoe was good, but long in the tooth too, if I am correct. Napoles was a great welterweight, maybe long in the tooth, too, by that time. Mundine and Licata were not much. I saw that fight closed circuit in San Francisco. I think it was one of the undercards (semi-main event) to a heavyweight title fight. Ali, I think. Was it Bugner? Anyway. I cannot recall Tonna.

Hamsho was a rugged brawler a la Maidana. I think he would beat most of the versions Monzon fought. It seems to me that most (not all) of Hagler's opponent sample here (title defenses) would defeat most of Monzon's sample.

I think Hagler's list is significantly superior to Monzon's, considering the stage of their careers the respective opponents were in. Hearns kills anyone on Monzon's list, is my take, and he is pretty quick about it. Leonard would struggle against a few, but would overcome all. In a round robin tournament, Hagler's opponents will devastate Monzon's. Duran would be beaten by three or four guys, but he would whip the rest handily, including Napoles and Griffith. Look for many early KO's in the tournament from Roldan and Mugabi. Hagler's lower tier does all right against Monzon's middle tier. That's just how I see it. In other words, an opinion. But since I am always right (I never disagree with myself), I guess that about settles it. Well, it's been a nice thread.