Rate Peter Nelson's first 6 months of HBO Boxing Programming

[aldo5408]

Nothing less than awful truly pathetic the only fight that is competitive is lucas vs Herrea
All their other fights are or have been mismatches

[j0zef]

The lack of insight in this thread is pathetic. It's also laughable that you're trying to blame Nelson as if he's the one making these fights.

0/10 troll thread.

[The Big Dunn]

The lack of insight in this thread is pathetic. It's also laughable that you're trying to blame Nelson as if he's the one making these fights.

0/10 troll thread.

As the new head of HBO sports/boxing, he is 100% responsible for the fights involving those with an exclusive deal because he has to ok any fight before it gets signed.

For all other fights on HBO, its either he doesn't approve of the fight it doesn't get made or if he doesn't pick it up it doesn't air.

[Kagami Taiga]

The lack of insight in this thread is pathetic. It's also laughable that you're trying to blame Nelson as if he's the one making these fights.

0/10 troll thread.

He is the one placing these fights on HBO. HBO has a lot of power when it comes to denying fights. Thats exactly the reason why they supposedly dropped Haymon. But now suddenly, its not them making these fights?

[Scipio2009]

how many of these fights am I actually excited to see?

All of HBO's biggest stars have fought or have a fight scheduled thru the first 6 months of the year.

Jan 30th
Kovalev vs. Pascal II
Mikhaylenko vs. Mayfield

Feb. 27th
Crawford vs. Lundy
Verdejo vs Silva

March 5th
Ortiz vs. Thompson
Ali vs. Vargas

March 26th
Ward vs. Barrera

April 9th
Pacquiao vs. Bradley III-just to see Atlas/Bradley improve
G. Rameriz vs. Abraham
Valdez vs. Gradovich
J. Ramirez vs. Perez

April 23rd
Golovkin vs. Wade
R. Gonzalez vs. Juan Hernandez

May 7th
Canelo vs. Khan
Herrera vs. Matthysse (possible)

Kovalev could fight again in June but his promoter is talking about a fight in Russia and the Stevenson deal fell thru so most likely it'll be a showcase fight.

Arum has said Crawford will be ready to fight again in June/July. Can't think of an intriguing opponent since Matthysse will more than likely be fighting on the Canelo undercard. Postol would be a good fight but his manager says they want one fight before Crawford but they don't even have a fight scheduled.

Lomanchenko vs. Walters could change the rating or R. Gonzalez vs a live body could make the rating different but those fights aren't even being discussed as we know of.

Honestly not that many, without much else to look toward sans the Kovalev-Ward fight and likely Cotto's return(which will likely have Ward as the chief support).

Rate that however you wish

[j0zef]

As the new head of HBO sports/boxing, he is 100% responsible for the fights involving those with an exclusive deal because he has to ok any fight before it gets signed.

For all other fights on HBO, its either he doesn't approve of the fight it doesn't get made or if he doesn't pick it up it doesn't air.

.... so you think he shouldn't pick up those fights then? So he could earn a reputation for being difficult to work with? His job is to keep his fighters marketable and make sure he can generate profits. That's what he's doing.

It's the same **** with people crapping on the fights. The idiots who complain about Kov/Pascal2 refuse to realize that there were no other alternatives in top5 or 10.
People who crap on Barrera/Ward are fools who don't even know what they want. A top 10 rated, unbeaten fighter is the absolute best first fight for someone moving into a new division. Adonis isn't gonna happen and Kovalev is the target at end of the year. What more do you want?
Ramirez/Abraham is another excellent fight - an old wolf taking on an unbeaten, top10 rated young challenger.
You can crap on Wade/Golovkin, but it's a mandatory, and they've tried their damnest to make every other fight. Anything else required them to give up the belt. How in the blue hell is it up to Nelson to NOT air a mandatory defense by one of his cash cows?


That is what I meant when I said people have no insight. They ***** for the sake of *****ing, while not even trying to think about the alternatives.

[IMDAZED]

He is the one placing these fights on HBO. HBO has a lot of power when it comes to denying fights. Thats exactly the reason why they supposedly dropped Haymon. But now suddenly, its not them making these fights?

Probably in over his head -- give him some time. At least that's what Bob Arum thinks. I find it curious how they allow Triple Tuneup to take all these crappy matchups and never pushed him for him to fight Ward at 168 but are now trying to expedite Ward-Kovalev. And IDK wtf they're doing with Gonzalez but I'm patient. Better see that Estrada rematch soon. Actually, HBO would be wise to pick Estrada up as they did Roman.

[The Big Dunn]

.... so you think he shouldn't pick up those fights then? So he could earn a reputation for being difficult to work with? His job is to keep his fighters marketable and make sure he can generate profits. That's what he's doing.

It's the same **** with people crapping on the fights. The idiots who complain about Kov/Pascal2 refuse to realize that there were no other alternatives in top5 or 10.
People who crap on Barrera/Ward are fools who don't even know what they want. A top 10 rated, unbeaten fighter is the absolute best first fight for someone moving into a new division. Adonis isn't gonna happen and Kovalev is the target at end of the year. What more do you want?
Ramirez/Abraham is another excellent fight - an old wolf taking on an unbeaten, top10 rated young challenger.
You can crap on Wade/Golovkin, but it's a mandatory, and they've tried their damnest to make every other fight. Anything else required them to give up the belt. How in the blue hell is it up to Nelson to NOT air a mandatory defense by one of his cash cows?


That is what I meant when I said people have no insight. They ***** for the sake of *****ing, while not even trying to think about the alternatives.

Thats a deflective question that has no bearing on the point I made. He is 100% responsible for boxing programming that airs on HBO. For you to say otherwise shows a level of ignorance that is surprising for someone on NSB.

There are always alternatives J0zef. The kov/pascal fight was a garbage rematch that didn't need to happen.

Stop trying to deflect and change the narrative. I nor anyone else gave him crap for airing these fights. We are simply saying there are better fights to be made.

As for no insight, thats more deflective justification. North could mandate Canelo/GGG fight next. He could make chocalito fight a better opponent-same as ward. he could of forced crawfors/postol. he didn't have to sign off on any mismatch.

All posters are saying is there are better fights with people available without any political problems that could of been made. Any real boxing fan has to see this.

[j0zef]

Thats a deflective question that has no bearing on the point I made. He is 100% responsible for boxing programming that airs on HBO. For you to say otherwise shows a level of ignorance that is surprising for someone on NSB.

There are always alternatives J0zef. The kov/pascal fight was a garbage rematch that didn't need to happen.

Stop trying to deflect and change the narrative. I nor anyone else gave him crap for airing these fights. We are simply saying there are better fights to be made.

As for no insight, thats more deflective justification. North could mandate Canelo/GGG fight next. He could make chocalito fight a better opponent-same as ward. he could of forced crawfors/postol. he didn't have to sign off on any mismatch.

All posters are saying is there are better fights with people available without any political problems that could of been made. Any real boxing fan has to see this.

I'm getting tired of your little snippy insults. Be a man. Nobody's deflecting anything, you're bringing your usual bull**** into a thread that craps on HBO.

As I said, Pascal/Kov happened because nobody else in top10 took the match. How hard is that to understand? What was the alternative? Sit and do nothing?
Chocolatito is fighting a top10 opponent next. With Estrada's outrageous money demands and Inoue saying he's not ready, they're all one as good as another.
Ward's moving into a new[ish] division after a long layoff. Give him a break before throwing him to the wolves. The fight is solid. Look at the LHW list. There were 3 possible names for him - Barrera, Shabransky and Beterbiev. Considering he has a 3 fight contract with Kov at the end, 2 of those 3 should be in the front. It makes sense to start with Barrera, especially with Artur coming off should surgery.
Postol just won a title, and they should give him a decent defense before throwing him back to the wolves.

And no, he should not mandate any fight. We already have diva fighters picking fights, 4 abc organizations with 30 belts each mandating fights. Last thing we need is to have the television network mandating fights.


The network's responsibility is to assist in promoting fighters and make sure they make a profit.

[IMDAZED]

Was it Estrada who had outrageous money demands or Gonzalez?