Saw this post from Dionysian discussing a UFC monopoly and its effects on the sport of MMA and fighters.
From: Dionysian
We hear the same arguments for why the UFC should be the only business in town. Some of the points very much have merit. Basically they usually sound like:
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A. If there was only one org then all the best fighters would be in one place, so we could see Brock vs Fedor, Overeem vs JDS, Mo vs Rashad, Aoki vs Maynard, etc. Instead we get SF screwing things up and competing with the UFC.
B. Boxing has a bunch of titles and that makes it hard to know who is ranked #1, the UFC is the NHL/NFL of MMA, etc etc.
C. Most of all, UFC helps to grow the sport. If it wasn’t for the UFC MMA would be a fringe sport with no mainstream success. They are even opening up new markets.
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I agree with some of the reasoning here. In particular we will see benefits like opening up new markets and more top fighters facing off against each other. These benefits we will see in the ‘monopolizing phase’ as UFC tries to gain more of the market and pushes others out of business. What about after that? Let’s say the UFC achieves total monopoly status by 2015 (just picking a year). Will we really be better off? I see a few worrying trends:
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1. The more monopolistic, the worse it gets for fighters:
Here are the salaries for 115, where the best fight the best and yet get paid the worst:
- UFC 115 PAYS $1.285 MILLION IN FIGHTER SALARIES- MMA WEEKLY - Mixed Martial Arts & UFC News, Photos, Rankings & more
Why is Pat Barry making 11K in the co-main event? Why was Carwin making 40K fighting for the title? More importantly, do you think salaries would go UP or DOWN in a world where the fighters have no option but to fight for the UFC? Why not pay Pat minimum wage and Carwin 20K? After all, both those figures are more than 0K which is how much they’d make if the UFC was the only game in town and you either “fight UFC” as a career or you are unemployed.
2. The more monopolistic, the harder it is for the sport to crack into the mainstream:
First off, I agree that the MONOPOLIZING phase is good for expanding the sport. This is different from the MONOPOLY phase. What happens when the markets are opened, competition is crushed, and fighters are locked? What happens then is the superprofits stage. That is accomplished by pushing salaries as low as they go on the fighter side (since the fighters will have no alternative) and by pushing profits as high as they can on the consumer side (since the MMA fan can either pay whatever they ask or go watch golf instead). When people go to jail for trying to show MMA for free (http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/ufc...reads-1285707/), when you can’t find a youtube HL to save your life, and when any possibility of MMA being on network/cable TV (remember that NHL, NFL and the NBA are ON NETWORK TV) how do you think the sport will expand? It will go back towards FRINGE status with the same 1 million people shelling out $600 a year to watch a sport they love. How many of you got into MMA through the internet or through videos? I won’t lie and say I saw UFC 1 on PPV. Do you think it will be a good thing that new fans will be unable to get into the sport the same way you did?? Would you spend 50 on a sport without knowing ANYTHING about it first?
3. The more monopolistic, the shadier the sport will get:
Do you think these stories will be more common or less common the more power DW has over the sport?
Dana White Strikes Fedor by Forcing Tapout To Submit | Bleacher Report
The more the UFC controls the more shady practices will be done to ensure that control is never broken.
Remember company-man Chael’s interview where he said he wouldn’t buy Machida-Shogun 2?
Fight Week: Chael Sonnen (check out the 6-minute mark)
This is the prevalent logic behind the new trend in the sport. Nobody wants to see two guys respecting each other, people want to see soap operas and WWE-matchmaking-style. You’re wrong if you think Brock mouthing off is the closest the sport has gotten to the WWE… the entire promotional layout is becoming more geared towards it. While I don’t think we’re close to the sport transcending into the realm of fight-fixing anytime soon, I do think it hurts the sport when all narratives, fighters, and fights are geared for ENTERTAINMENT (in the WWE-style) rather than competition in the atmosphere of an elite SPORT. I am one guy that paid the money for 113 and is not for 117. I do this because I value FIGHTS over drama enactments/entertainment. Those of you who masturbate to trash talk can listen to Sonnen for FREE via youtube by the way. During 117 you'll only be seeing the pesky fight, so there's no need to watch.
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The only thing a monopoly will give us is
I. Less great fighters relative to what we could have (since there is less motivation to start a career in MMA since there is no financial incentive to do so... why should Pat Barry and those like him get punched in the face for a living when you can make more doing a basic construction job?)
II. Relegation of MMA to being a PPV-only sport in order to line the pockets for a handful of guys at the very top of the UFC pyramid
III. Less objectivity in journalism and media as the UFC muscles out any dissenting voice and a bandwagon effect sets in (You think Fedor getting cut off the top 10 P4P after losing ONE fight in 10 years is bad? Or Edgar and Serra going to #1 while Werdum is not even considered for beating the previous #1? That will look like nothing when we hit the monopoly phase!)
IV. More transition to WWE-entertainment rather than MMA-as-sport
Is this really what we want when we say we hope the UFC becomes a monopoly??
We hear the same arguments for why the UFC should be the only business in town. Some of the points very much have merit. Basically they usually sound like:
------
A. If there was only one org then all the best fighters would be in one place, so we could see Brock vs Fedor, Overeem vs JDS, Mo vs Rashad, Aoki vs Maynard, etc. Instead we get SF screwing things up and competing with the UFC.
B. Boxing has a bunch of titles and that makes it hard to know who is ranked #1, the UFC is the NHL/NFL of MMA, etc etc.
C. Most of all, UFC helps to grow the sport. If it wasn’t for the UFC MMA would be a fringe sport with no mainstream success. They are even opening up new markets.
------
I agree with some of the reasoning here. In particular we will see benefits like opening up new markets and more top fighters facing off against each other. These benefits we will see in the ‘monopolizing phase’ as UFC tries to gain more of the market and pushes others out of business. What about after that? Let’s say the UFC achieves total monopoly status by 2015 (just picking a year). Will we really be better off? I see a few worrying trends:
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1. The more monopolistic, the worse it gets for fighters:
Here are the salaries for 115, where the best fight the best and yet get paid the worst:
- UFC 115 PAYS $1.285 MILLION IN FIGHTER SALARIES- MMA WEEKLY - Mixed Martial Arts & UFC News, Photos, Rankings & more
Why is Pat Barry making 11K in the co-main event? Why was Carwin making 40K fighting for the title? More importantly, do you think salaries would go UP or DOWN in a world where the fighters have no option but to fight for the UFC? Why not pay Pat minimum wage and Carwin 20K? After all, both those figures are more than 0K which is how much they’d make if the UFC was the only game in town and you either “fight UFC” as a career or you are unemployed.
2. The more monopolistic, the harder it is for the sport to crack into the mainstream:
First off, I agree that the MONOPOLIZING phase is good for expanding the sport. This is different from the MONOPOLY phase. What happens when the markets are opened, competition is crushed, and fighters are locked? What happens then is the superprofits stage. That is accomplished by pushing salaries as low as they go on the fighter side (since the fighters will have no alternative) and by pushing profits as high as they can on the consumer side (since the MMA fan can either pay whatever they ask or go watch golf instead). When people go to jail for trying to show MMA for free (http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/ufc...reads-1285707/), when you can’t find a youtube HL to save your life, and when any possibility of MMA being on network/cable TV (remember that NHL, NFL and the NBA are ON NETWORK TV) how do you think the sport will expand? It will go back towards FRINGE status with the same 1 million people shelling out $600 a year to watch a sport they love. How many of you got into MMA through the internet or through videos? I won’t lie and say I saw UFC 1 on PPV. Do you think it will be a good thing that new fans will be unable to get into the sport the same way you did?? Would you spend 50 on a sport without knowing ANYTHING about it first?
3. The more monopolistic, the shadier the sport will get:
Do you think these stories will be more common or less common the more power DW has over the sport?
Dana White Strikes Fedor by Forcing Tapout To Submit | Bleacher Report
The more the UFC controls the more shady practices will be done to ensure that control is never broken.
Remember company-man Chael’s interview where he said he wouldn’t buy Machida-Shogun 2?
Fight Week: Chael Sonnen (check out the 6-minute mark)
This is the prevalent logic behind the new trend in the sport. Nobody wants to see two guys respecting each other, people want to see soap operas and WWE-matchmaking-style. You’re wrong if you think Brock mouthing off is the closest the sport has gotten to the WWE… the entire promotional layout is becoming more geared towards it. While I don’t think we’re close to the sport transcending into the realm of fight-fixing anytime soon, I do think it hurts the sport when all narratives, fighters, and fights are geared for ENTERTAINMENT (in the WWE-style) rather than competition in the atmosphere of an elite SPORT. I am one guy that paid the money for 113 and is not for 117. I do this because I value FIGHTS over drama enactments/entertainment. Those of you who masturbate to trash talk can listen to Sonnen for FREE via youtube by the way. During 117 you'll only be seeing the pesky fight, so there's no need to watch.
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The only thing a monopoly will give us is
I. Less great fighters relative to what we could have (since there is less motivation to start a career in MMA since there is no financial incentive to do so... why should Pat Barry and those like him get punched in the face for a living when you can make more doing a basic construction job?)
II. Relegation of MMA to being a PPV-only sport in order to line the pockets for a handful of guys at the very top of the UFC pyramid
III. Less objectivity in journalism and media as the UFC muscles out any dissenting voice and a bandwagon effect sets in (You think Fedor getting cut off the top 10 P4P after losing ONE fight in 10 years is bad? Or Edgar and Serra going to #1 while Werdum is not even considered for beating the previous #1? That will look like nothing when we hit the monopoly phase!)
IV. More transition to WWE-entertainment rather than MMA-as-sport
Is this really what we want when we say we hope the UFC becomes a monopoly??
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