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Prime Floyd Mayweather jr. vs. prime 'Battling' Nelson @ 135. Who takes it???
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call me a stick in the mud, but Im not too thrilled about all the illegal things that Nelson did. bending the rules is one thing, but the kind of stuff he did does not make me admire him as a fighter, and he would be DQed right quick with a good ref
that being said, Ive never seen any worthwhile footage of him, so I cant say anything about this matchup.
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostI made this thread in NSB but (perhaps as expected) didn't get any replies. I'll have a go in this section.
Mayweather vs. Nelson. Lightweight championship.
Old school rules:
4 ounce horse-hair gloves.
It's a fight to the finish. (50 rounds.)
Weigh-in at fight time in the ring.
The slick Mayweather facing off against the toughest fighter the world have ever seen. Nelson fought the great Joe Gans 3 times. Lost the first by DQ in round 42 and won the following 2 fights by knock-out.
Who takes it?
Mayweather:
Nelson:
Hey B,
I honestly cant envision Mayweather jr exchanging with Nelson and standing toe to toe against such a tough guy...
So I would presume he will depend on his tactic of running around, shoulder rolling and potshotting... Then again, he wont be able to do it for a fight to the finish at 50 rounds... I cant envision Mayweather winning with the conditions you stated above...
Maybe a 15 round fight with conventional conditions, Mayweather MIGHT be competetive though... BUT I DOUBT IT VERY MUCH against Nelson...
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Originally posted by blackirish137 View Postcall me a stick in the mud, but Im not too thrilled about all the illegal things that Nelson did. bending the rules is one thing, but the kind of stuff he did does not make me admire him as a fighter, and he would be DQed right quick with a good ref
that being said, Ive never seen any worthwhile footage of him, so I cant say anything about this matchup.
Regarding Nelson's dirty tricks well he was indeed dirty. One of the dirtiest ever. But the rules was different back then and most fighters from back then would be DQ'ed with a modern ref.
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Originally posted by klipsch speaker View PostHey B,
I honestly cant envision Mayweather jr exchanging with Nelson and standing toe to toe against such a tough guy...
So I would presume he will depend on his tactic of running around, shoulder rolling and potshotting... Then again, he wont be able to do it for a fight to the finish at 50 rounds... I cant envision Mayweather winning with the conditions you stated above...
Maybe a 15 round fight with conventional conditions, Mayweather MIGHT be competetive though... BUT I DOUBT IT VERY MUCH against Nelson...
If Nelson could take Gans 40+ rounds surely he would deal with Mayweather.
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mayweather would knock him into next week, come on dude, the speed, power, accuracy and skill advantages of floyd would just be way too much, he could get a little put off by all the crap nelson would pull but i think he would knock him out pretty early
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostPretty much what I'd say. Mayweather would likely win a decision if the fight was 20 rounds or less. Other than that he'd lose IMO.
If Nelson could take Gans 40+ rounds surely he would deal with Mayweather.
gans had a good resume and was a smart fighter but good lord mayweather would obliterate both him and nelson on the same night
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Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44 View Postever considered that oh, i dunno mayweather is 1 billion times better than gans?
gans had a good resume and was a smart fighter but good lord mayweather would obliterate both him and nelson on the same night
Mayweather might very well outclass Nelson as I said, but I cannot see him winning a fight to finish.
Holyfield might have a shot. If he was roided well
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Originally posted by reedickyaluss View PostFloyd would break his hands with those glovesOriginally posted by BattlingNelson View PostThat was common back then. Nelson often fought with broken hands.
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floyds skills let him compete in any era. That said I don't think he can knock nelson out. The longer it goes the more it favors Nelson. If this was 12 rounds I would pick Floyd. But his hands won't hold up under these circumstances and Nelson won't stop with his relentless pressure. If Nelson could compete with Corbett II, Gans, McGovern, Wolgast and others, he'd be able to hang in there with Mayweather.
Floyd take a lot of the early rounds, but Nelson keeps coming and coming to win the newspaper decision, which was common back then.
Make that fight under todays standards and I'll fly with Mayweather by comfortable decision.
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