Canadian troops have left Afghanistan: was it worth it?

[Left Hook Tua]

that is true about the demographic thing.

i never thought it.

i just assumed it was purely economic as far as men with nothing to do so taking up arms.

we need to give afghans **** and ps4's. that'll kill their recruitment. lol

[Left Hook Tua]

Actually, the USA won the battles.

They were defeated in the war by the American media, who pressured the politicians and generals to make seemingly irrational decisions.

After WINNING one of the biggest and costliest battles of the war, The Battle of Khe Sanh, the Americans were ordered to completely evacuate the area they fought so hard to hold (in northern South Vietnam). The area was then promptly re-occupied by the NVA.

they did win the battles but the war lost thru the media.

funny thing is tet destroyed the VC but at the same time won them the war.

the VC thought the SViet ppl would rally with them. never happened and they got crushed.

american media and ppl didn't realize it.

[boxingbrain28]

What makes you think they've accomplished both? The Taliban are stronger than ever, and what's worse, the entire fiasco has alienated, antagonised and potentially radicalised Pakistan. The 'loss' of Pakistan to radical Islam would be the greatest disaster in modern geopolitical history, and nothing has come closer to doing that than the entire insane episode in Afghanistan.

And they weren't trying to 'prop up the place'. They were trying to prop up a government which would be strong enough to survive. They've failed, miserably. As has anyone who's tried to impose their will on Afghanistan. 'Should have just bombed them'

Exactly people from the west don't realize the reality. There is no way to defeat the ideology which the Taliban use. The Pashtun which make up most of the Taliban are one of the most staunch people you will ever meet.

For every Talib that was killed, other members from his family would join, The Taliban still control many parts of Afghanistan and you can bet on it that once all other forces are out of Afghanistan that they will once again be in power.

The Afghan army is not equipped or trained highly enough to defeat a force which has been operating in that region since the 80s.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, the war really did radicalise Pakistan, never before was there suicide bombings in Pakistan and there was no war going on in the Northwest region. It was only when Pakistan got involved that the country started facing severe security problems.

[Left Hook Tua]

so there will always be terrorists, so don't bother attacking them?

idiotic. al qaeda attacked the us, the us had to go after them.

us killed, captured a lot of al qaeda, destroyed their training camps and overthrew the taliban who gave al qaeda sanctuary.

the fact there is still ppl claiming AQ or TAL is irrelevant. they're not the same ppl or org anymore.

get it?

they are local groups, mostly operating locally, fighting for small regions or local power or money.

the current taliban are no longer the central govt in afghanistan or a major international group like al qaeda was.

al qaeda bombed a us destroyer in the gulf of aden, blew up US embassies in africa, saudi buildings, attacked WTC in NY TWICE.

they were very organized and trained. they don't have that anymore.

local groups causing havoc in afghanistan, iraq, etc. is one thing.

what they were capable off pre-afghan war was another.

[squealpiggy]

As far as Pakistan is concerned, the war really did radicalise Pakistan, never before was there suicide bombings in Pakistan and there was no war going on in the Northwest region. It was only when Pakistan got involved that the country started facing severe security problems.

The war didn't radicalise Pakistan, the war pushed radicals out of Afghanistan and into Pakistan over the mountains. Pakistan has always been a major player in Islamic extremism.

[Left Hook Tua]

The war didn't radicalise Pakistan, the war pushed radicals out of Afghanistan and into Pakistan over the mountains. Pakistan has always been a major player in Islamic extremism.

plus pakistan went after them because of US pressure while they didn't before.

and pakistan still supports some groups like those in kashmir.

[Bermuda]

afghanistan is still a **** hole.....same with iraq.......nothing good came out of those wars........

sad that so many died for nothing........

[Left Hook Tua]

afghanistan is still a **** hole.....same with iraq.......nothing good came out of those wars........

sad that so many died for nothing........

since when did wars create something good?

going to war means killing ppl. you know that right?



death, destruction, rape, pillaging, looting, arson, mass graves.

that is war.

what history books did you have in school?

did your school have books? not enough pictures?

[Left Hook Tua]

NATO needs to develop weapons that do/give something good.

something good has to come out of war. for appono astos sake.


canadian air launch guided maple syrup dispenser.

british air to air rainbow making missiles. follow the end of the rainbow to find a solid gold irish tank.

american self propelled armored mcdonald's.

french wine dispensing howitzers and cheese rockets.

swiss cancer curing bullets.

russian natural gas exporting nuclear bomb.

chine mobile walmart superstore.

japanese mechanized care bear.


we can do this.

we need something good to come from war.