absolutely ridiculous

[Fr3$h]

Guys he said Wlad is ducking Haye. Why even bother with serious responses?

It's another guy who doesn't even watch HWs and just logs in to whine after wlad fights on TV.

[cupocity303]

People gushing over the Vlad fight is beyond reproach. It should have been obvious to anyone that Vlad would look good against a guy who could not move, was slow as molasses....and could not even throw those molasses shots straight. How can anyone say this victory reflects on Vlad's greatness in any way with a straight face?

Nobody is saying that. His overall body of work reflects on his greatness.

This was just his 16th Title defense, nothing more, nothing less. It's a numbers game. It's no longer about subjective theory about how good this opponent is Vs how good that opponent is. They're all equally "shit" once they lose to him. Even Pulev, Fury, Wilder. They're good opposition now and they're shit opposition according to revisionist history once they have lost to him.

[Mr.Fantastic]

People gushing over the Vlad fight is beyond reproach. It should have been obvious to anyone that Vlad would look good against a guy who could not move, was slow as molasses....and could not even throw those molasses shots straight. How can anyone say this victory reflects on Vlad's greatness in any way with a straight face? This guy was good enough to receive a proper beating and little else, there are guys in MMA who could box circles around him. I am glad he got the payday and hope he is not injured because he is obviously a nice kid.

The competition Vlad fights is increasingly bad. Its downright ridiculous in fact. meanwhile there is a line at the gate of decent fighters who could be a problem for the paper champ....This guy deserves no credit until he takes some of those guys on....not some guy we never heard of.....a guy like Haye, Fury, Chisora, etc. Stiverne, Aereola even.....or if he wants the size advantage? how about Ruiz?

This is ridiculous it certainly is not comendable, but people eat it up and praise this guy for fighting guys who are tailor made and have virtually no chance of doing damage. The Klitschkos have been very smart and self serving yet always make it seem like they are fighting guys who are dangerous and whom the fans have an interest in seeing in the ring...I call bs, I call a bandwagon to put all the horse manure these guys have generated with their holier than thou excuses as to why negotiations would not work....when it has come out that they are real @holes during these negotiations, when the fights we see are such garbage.

You just described Floyd Mayweather.

[RadioCart]

Nobody is saying that. His overall body of work reflects on his greatness.

This was just his 16th Title defense, nothing more, nothing less. It's a numbers game. It's no longer about subjective theory about how good this opponent is Vs how good opponent is. They're all equally "shit" once they lose to him. Even Pulev, Fury, Wilder. They're good opposition now and they're shit opposition according to revisionist history once they have lost to him.

this........

[cupocity303]

And Joe Frazier would absolutely MURK Wlad.

Of course he wouldn't.

But you may make yourself feel better by believing that. He is dead now and there is no way to prove it (R.I.P.)

[RadioCart]

Of course he wouldn't.

But you may make yourself feel better by believing that. He is dead now and there is no way to prove it (R.I.P.)

its to a point, Cupo303, where people are going to criticize wlad for anything

they just want to see him lose

People gushing over the Vlad fight is beyond reproach. It should have been obvious to anyone that Vlad would look good against a guy who could not move, was slow as molasses....and could not even throw those molasses shots straight. How can anyone say this victory reflects on Vlad's greatness in any way with a straight face? This guy was good enough to receive a proper beating and little else, there are guys in MMA who could box circles around him. I am glad he got the payday and hope he is not injured because he is obviously a nice kid.

The competition Vlad fights is increasingly bad. Its downright ridiculous in fact. meanwhile there is a line at the gate of decent fighters who could be a problem for the paper champ....This guy deserves no credit until he takes some of those guys on....not some guy we never heard of.....a guy like Haye, Fury, Chisora, etc. Stiverne, Aereola even.....or if he wants the size advantage? how about Ruiz?

This is ridiculous it certainly is not comendable, but people eat it up and praise this guy for fighting guys who are tailor made and have virtually no chance of doing damage. The Klitschkos have been very smart and self serving yet always make it seem like they are fighting guys who are dangerous and whom the fans have an interest in seeing in the ring...I call bs, I call a bandwagon to put all the horse manure these guys have generated with their holier than thou excuses as to why negotiations would not work....when it has come out that they are real @holes during these negotiations, when the fights we see are such garbage.

There's a thread called "Wlad vs Leapai discussion thread." USE IT. ****.

[BartBears]

Chris Byrd (guy who fought Wlad) doesn't agree with you

[Cuban Linx]

smh another Brit whining about the Klitschko's dominance...

Guys he said Wlad is ducking Haye. Why even bother with serious responses?

It's another guy who doesn't even watch HWs and just logs in to whine after wlad fights on TV.

They (Brits) were furious at the outcome of the Haye fight. Because they genuinely believed that Haye would knock him out. Don't believe me? Go look up all threads from 3 years ago.

When Wlad dominated him they were bitterly upset.

smh another Brit whining about the Klitschko's dominance...

Them bias brit's, eh? :wank:


Nice apostrophe in Klitschkos btw.