Comments Thread For: Mayweather Jr, Ortiz Press Tour Quotes and Notes

[komandante]

Manny Pacquiao an Asian is way way way more popular in Vegas and around the world than Floyd Mayweather jr.

[komandante]

Going to be one of the biggest if not THE biggest fight of the year with the largest PPV numbers since Mayweather vs Mosley.

This fight is what boxing's all about.....

Mayweather v Ortiz will be boring, Pacquiao v Marquez war and exciting.

[budfr]

The best and most famous is pacman. Floyd is great but not the best, maybe in the first ten. He has been a u.s. Media marketing product. His record should have at least 2 losses or draws vs castillo and odlhoya.

[Brother Jay]

Pacquiao is the biggest fight not the dodger Mayweather.

The biggest fight is determined by what is the biggest draw. Mayweather is a proven commodity in that he has drawn better than any other boxer including Pacquiao. Those are facts and numbers ... something *******s refuse to deal with.

same here.......but i hope floyd is serious that he will trade with ortiz tho.....it'll be a good fight if he keeps his word...but we all know how full of **** floyd is.....

Why wouldn't he? Mayweather walked Mosley down for 12 rounds and Mosley is 10 times the puncher that Ortiz is.

Manny Pacquiao an Asian is way way way more popular in Vegas and around the world than Floyd Mayweather jr.

Manny Pacquiao, an Asian, is way way way less popular because people are less willing to spend money on a Pacquiao fight than a Mayweather fight. That is the measure of true popularity in boxing. People spend more on tickets and PPVs to see Mayweather. Pacquioa simply has more loud, ignorant fans who have surfaced in the last few years.

The best and most famous is pacman. Floyd is great but not the best, maybe in the first ten. He has been a u.s. Media marketing product. His record should have at least 2 losses or draws vs castillo and odlhoya.

Pacquiao is a media marketing product. First, Pacquiao hid out in Southeast Asia for his first 35 fights. Then didn't fight anyone we know until his 41st fight. Keep in mind that the man has 57 fights.

Then Pacquiao began competing for vacant belts as a claim to be a multi division champion. Keep in mind 5 out of 8 of his division titles are vacant belts.

Then Pacquiao moved up in weight and began challenging welterweights. The catch though was that he stipulated that his opponents dehydrate down to within 2 pounds of his weight, weakening them in the process. If that wasn't shameful enough, he would only fight WW boxers once they lost to other WW fighters. Pacquiao to date, has NEVER fought a WW while they were on top. Never. His last 6 opponents had all just suffered the worst loss of their careers before Pacquiao was willing to face them.

Then Pacquiao fought a banned WW fighter for yet another vacant belt at jrMW that the WW was never in line for a shot at. This was a move that effectively let Pacquiao win a belt at 154 but dodge yet again a legitimate champion in the division.

THIS MAY SOUND REPETITIVE, BUT THE FACTS DON'T CHANGE WITH THE SEASONS!

Pacquiao is an exciting fighter to watch but he has had a tremendous amount of help in achieving what is seemingly an impressive resume. However that resume and his legacy do NOT stand up to deeper that superficial scrutiny.

I am a boxing fan and an honest man. Therefore, unlike *******s, I am willing to admit that Floyd should have either lost or gotten a draw to Castillio in their first fight. I've said that from the beginning on other boxing boards for years.

However, The Mayweather/DLH fight wasn't even close. DLH came in weighing more than 20lbs heavier than Floyd that night. And unlike *******s, boxing actually records statistics called "punches landed" and "punches thrown" with a program called "Compubox". Floyd landed a considerable amount more punches than DLH and threw a considerable amount less.

Oh and in case you didn't know *******s ... Floyd Mayweather Jr is the most accurate boxer since the inception of Compubox into the sport. Did you know that? Did you know that the guy hardly ever wastes punches? Yeah, that's another feather in his cap that *******s ignore. Its not a accolade that's bestowed. Its earned by skill and talent.

Nearly every accolade Pacquiao received has been bestowed because boxing is hemorrhaging in its competition with MMA and needs more stars to attract a younger audience. Let's not forget that Pacquiao was winning before 2007. Yet he was not the media darling that he has become UNTIL Floyd Mayweather retired. Boxing had some big shoes to fill and unfortunately Pacquiao needed some help in making his case as a top boxer.

So what did Pacquiao do to be able to legitimize himself as a top boxer? LOL .. he fought Floyd's last two defeated opponents and had Arum market it as David vs Goliath matches. Arum did such a good job at making Pacquiao seem like the "small, coy Asian guy" that people didn't even bother to notice that Pacquiao is only 2" shorter than Mayweather and Mosley.

Pacquiao has made a habit of going after other WW fighter's defeated foes. He fought DLH and Hatton(Floyd's), then he fought Cotto(Antonio's) then he fought Clottey(Cotto's), then he fought Margarito(Shane's). Then after two years of refusing to even consider a match, Pacquiao finally fought Shane(Floyd's).

Pacquiao hasn't done a fawking thing that was special. Manny's entire legacy is based upon playing "little monkey see, little monkey do". Why won't this so-called top fighter ever do something original? Why does Pac need to wait until others do something first before he attempts to do it? Its called "C-O-W-A-R-D-I-C-E". Manny only feels confident when he sees someone else perform a feat first. Pacquiao NEVER ventures into uncharted waters because that's what champions do.

Did Floyd wait until DLH got beat at WW to fight him? Mayweather and DLH had been talking about a fight YEARS before it happened because Floyd's father was training DLH. Did Mayweather wait until Hatton got beat? No, Hatton was undefeated and had beat the legendary Kostya Tszyu. Floyd and Marquez fought because Marquez wanted the best if he couldn't get the third match that he had been literally screaming for with Manny. Marquez said to the world "I will go where Pacquiao won't and fight Mayweather!"

Did Floyd wait until Shane was dethroned to face him? No. Shane was the #1 WW in the world when Floyd fought him ... having KO'd Margarito and left him laying like a newborn baby. Floyd fights champions and makes them look like amateurs WITHOUT catchweights, without vacant belts and without a promoter who finds banned opponents to lay down for him to win paper titles.

And when(and inevitably they will) *******s show up to disagree with what I've written, ask them to go look up the records of these two fighters and they will pretend that you never challenged them! They duck challenges as much as Manny hiding out in Southeast Asia for his first 35 fights! Ask them to look up who fans worldwide pay more to see! The answer is Mayweather but they still say Pacquiao is more popular! You can't beat stupid!

Mayweather/Ortiz will blow away Pacquiao/Marquez for one main reason: There is no longer any intrigue between Pacquiao and Marquez! Pacquiao avoided Marquez for WAAAAAY too long, and now only a few will be willing to see Marquez try to climb up in weight to fight Manny because we all know Manny won't go down to 135lbs! This even though Manny claims to be "so small".

Freakin pathetic.

[FistO]

The biggest fight is determined by what is the biggest draw. Mayweather is a proven commodity in that he has drawn better than any other boxer including Pacquiao. Those are facts and numbers ... something *******s refuse to deal with.



Why wouldn't he? Mayweather walked Mosley down for 12 rounds and Mosley is 10 times the puncher that Ortiz is.



Manny Pacquiao, an Asian, is way way way less popular because people are less willing to spend money on a Pacquiao fight than a Mayweather fight. That is the measure of true popularity in boxing. People spend more on tickets and PPVs to see Mayweather. Pacquioa simply has more loud, ignorant fans who have surfaced in the last few years.



Pacquiao is a media marketing product. First, Pacquiao hid out in Southeast Asia for his first 35 fights. Then didn't fight anyone we know until his 41st fight. Keep in mind that the man has 57 fights.

Then Pacquiao began competing for vacant belts as a claim to be a multi division champion. Keep in mind 5 out of 8 of his division titles are vacant belts.

Then Pacquiao moved up in weight and began challenging welterweights. The catch though was that he stipulated that his opponents dehydrate down to within 2 pounds of his weight, weakening them in the process. If that wasn't shameful enough, he would only fight WW boxers once they lost to other WW fighters. Pacquiao to date, has NEVER fought a WW while they were on top. Never. His last 6 opponents had all just suffered the worst loss of their careers before Pacquiao was willing to face them.

Then Pacquiao fought a banned WW fighter for yet another vacant belt at jrMW that the WW was never in line for a shot at. This was a move that effectively let Pacquiao win a belt at 154 but dodge yet again a legitimate champion in the division.

THIS MAY SOUND REPETITIVE, BUT THE FACTS DON'T CHANGE WITH THE SEASONS!

Pacquiao is an exciting fighter to watch but he has had a tremendous amount of help in achieving what is seemingly an impressive resume. However that resume and his legacy do NOT stand up to deeper that superficial scrutiny.

I am a boxing fan and an honest man. Therefore, unlike *******s, I am willing to admit that Floyd should have either lost or gotten a draw to Castillio in their first fight. I've said that from the beginning on other boxing boards for years.

However, The Mayweather/DLH fight wasn't even close. DLH came in weighing more than 20lbs heavier than Floyd that night. And unlike *******s, boxing actually records statistics called "punches landed" and "punches thrown" with a program called "Compubox". Floyd landed a considerable amount more punches than DLH and threw a considerable amount less.

Oh and in case you didn't know *******s ... Floyd Mayweather Jr is the most accurate boxer since the inception of Compubox into the sport. Did you know that? Did you know that the guy hardly ever wastes punches? Yeah, that's another feather in his cap that *******s ignore. Its not a accolade that's bestowed. Its earned by skill and talent.

Nearly every accolade Pacquiao received has been bestowed because boxing is hemorrhaging in its competition with MMA and needs more stars to attract a younger audience. Let's not forget that Pacquiao was winning before 2007. Yet he was not the media darling that he has become UNTIL Floyd Mayweather retired. Boxing had some big shoes to fill and unfortunately Pacquiao needed some help in making his case as a top boxer.

So what did Pacquiao do to be able to legitimize himself as a top boxer? LOL .. he fought Floyd's last two defeated opponents and had Arum market it as David vs Goliath matches. Arum did such a good job at making Pacquiao seem like the "small, coy Asian guy" that people didn't even bother to notice that Pacquiao is only 2" shorter than Mayweather and Mosley.

Pacquiao has made a habit of going after other WW fighter's defeated foes. He fought DLH and Hatton(Floyd's), then he fought Cotto(Antonio's) then he fought Clottey(Cotto's), then he fought Margarito(Shane's). Then after two years of refusing to even consider a match, Pacquiao finally fought Shane(Floyd's).

Pacquiao hasn't done a fawking thing that was special. Manny's entire legacy is based upon playing "little monkey see, little monkey do". Why won't this so-called top fighter ever do something original? Why does Pac need to wait until others do something first before he attempts to do it? Its called "C-O-W-A-R-D-I-C-E". Manny only feels confident when he sees someone else perform a feat first. Pacquiao NEVER ventures into uncharted waters because that's what champions do.

Did Floyd wait until DLH got beat at WW to fight him? Mayweather and DLH had been talking about a fight YEARS before it happened because Floyd's father was training DLH. Did Mayweather wait until Hatton got beat? No, Hatton was undefeated and had beat the legendary Kostya Tszyu. Floyd and Marquez fought because Marquez wanted the best if he couldn't get the third match that he had been literally screaming for with Manny. Marquez said to the world "I will go where Pacquiao won't and fight Mayweather!"

Did Floyd wait until Shane was dethroned to face him? No. Shane was the #1 WW in the world when Floyd fought him ... having KO'd Margarito and left him laying like a newborn baby. Floyd fights champions and makes them look like amateurs WITHOUT catchweights, without vacant belts and without a promoter who finds banned opponents to lay down for him to win paper titles.

And when(and inevitably they will) *******s show up to disagree with what I've written, ask them to go look up the records of these two fighters and they will pretend that you never challenged them! They duck challenges as much as Manny hiding out in Southeast Asia for his first 35 fights! Ask them to look up who fans worldwide pay more to see! The answer is Mayweather but they still say Pacquiao is more popular! You can't beat stupid!

Mayweather/Ortiz will blow away Pacquiao/Marquez for one main reason: There is no longer any intrigue between Pacquiao and Marquez! Pacquiao avoided Marquez for WAAAAAY too long, and now only a few will be willing to see Marquez try to climb up in weight to fight Manny because we all know Manny won't go down to 135lbs! This even though Manny claims to be "so small".

Freakin pathetic.

wow. i totally read all of that.word for word. next time try writing twice as much.

[KeepOnPushing]

Dude came in and wrote a book Lol....

[WalkerSmith1921]

The biggest fight is determined by what is the biggest draw. Mayweather is a proven commodity in that he has drawn better than any other boxer including Pacquiao. Those are facts and numbers ... something *******s refuse to deal with.



Why wouldn't he? Mayweather walked Mosley down for 12 rounds and Mosley is 10 times the puncher that Ortiz is.



Manny Pacquiao, an Asian, is way way way less popular because people are less willing to spend money on a Pacquiao fight than a Mayweather fight. That is the measure of true popularity in boxing. People spend more on tickets and PPVs to see Mayweather. Pacquioa simply has more loud, ignorant fans who have surfaced in the last few years.



Pacquiao is a media marketing product. First, Pacquiao hid out in Southeast Asia for his first 35 fights. Then didn't fight anyone we know until his 41st fight. Keep in mind that the man has 57 fights.

Then Pacquiao began competing for vacant belts as a claim to be a multi division champion. Keep in mind 5 out of 8 of his division titles are vacant belts.

Then Pacquiao moved up in weight and began challenging welterweights. The catch though was that he stipulated that his opponents dehydrate down to within 2 pounds of his weight, weakening them in the process. If that wasn't shameful enough, he would only fight WW boxers once they lost to other WW fighters. Pacquiao to date, has NEVER fought a WW while they were on top. Never. His last 6 opponents had all just suffered the worst loss of their careers before Pacquiao was willing to face them.

Then Pacquiao fought a banned WW fighter for yet another vacant belt at jrMW that the WW was never in line for a shot at. This was a move that effectively let Pacquiao win a belt at 154 but dodge yet again a legitimate champion in the division.

THIS MAY SOUND REPETITIVE, BUT THE FACTS DON'T CHANGE WITH THE SEASONS!

Pacquiao is an exciting fighter to watch but he has had a tremendous amount of help in achieving what is seemingly an impressive resume. However that resume and his legacy do NOT stand up to deeper that superficial scrutiny.

I am a boxing fan and an honest man. Therefore, unlike *******s, I am willing to admit that Floyd should have either lost or gotten a draw to Castillio in their first fight. I've said that from the beginning on other boxing boards for years.

However, The Mayweather/DLH fight wasn't even close. DLH came in weighing more than 20lbs heavier than Floyd that night. And unlike *******s, boxing actually records statistics called "punches landed" and "punches thrown" with a program called "Compubox". Floyd landed a considerable amount more punches than DLH and threw a considerable amount less.

Oh and in case you didn't know *******s ... Floyd Mayweather Jr is the most accurate boxer since the inception of Compubox into the sport. Did you know that? Did you know that the guy hardly ever wastes punches? Yeah, that's another feather in his cap that *******s ignore. Its not a accolade that's bestowed. Its earned by skill and talent.

Nearly every accolade Pacquiao received has been bestowed because boxing is hemorrhaging in its competition with MMA and needs more stars to attract a younger audience. Let's not forget that Pacquiao was winning before 2007. Yet he was not the media darling that he has become UNTIL Floyd Mayweather retired. Boxing had some big shoes to fill and unfortunately Pacquiao needed some help in making his case as a top boxer.

So what did Pacquiao do to be able to legitimize himself as a top boxer? LOL .. he fought Floyd's last two defeated opponents and had Arum market it as David vs Goliath matches. Arum did such a good job at making Pacquiao seem like the "small, coy Asian guy" that people didn't even bother to notice that Pacquiao is only 2" shorter than Mayweather and Mosley.

Pacquiao has made a habit of going after other WW fighter's defeated foes. He fought DLH and Hatton(Floyd's), then he fought Cotto(Antonio's) then he fought Clottey(Cotto's), then he fought Margarito(Shane's). Then after two years of refusing to even consider a match, Pacquiao finally fought Shane(Floyd's).

Pacquiao hasn't done a fawking thing that was special. Manny's entire legacy is based upon playing "little monkey see, little monkey do". Why won't this so-called top fighter ever do something original? Why does Pac need to wait until others do something first before he attempts to do it? Its called "C-O-W-A-R-D-I-C-E". Manny only feels confident when he sees someone else perform a feat first. Pacquiao NEVER ventures into uncharted waters because that's what champions do.

Did Floyd wait until DLH got beat at WW to fight him? Mayweather and DLH had been talking about a fight YEARS before it happened because Floyd's father was training DLH. Did Mayweather wait until Hatton got beat? No, Hatton was undefeated and had beat the legendary Kostya Tszyu. Floyd and Marquez fought because Marquez wanted the best if he couldn't get the third match that he had been literally screaming for with Manny. Marquez said to the world "I will go where Pacquiao won't and fight Mayweather!"

Did Floyd wait until Shane was dethroned to face him? No. Shane was the #1 WW in the world when Floyd fought him ... having KO'd Margarito and left him laying like a newborn baby. Floyd fights champions and makes them look like amateurs WITHOUT catchweights, without vacant belts and without a promoter who finds banned opponents to lay down for him to win paper titles.

And when(and inevitably they will) *******s show up to disagree with what I've written, ask them to go look up the records of these two fighters and they will pretend that you never challenged them! They duck challenges as much as Manny hiding out in Southeast Asia for his first 35 fights! Ask them to look up who fans worldwide pay more to see! The answer is Mayweather but they still say Pacquiao is more popular! You can't beat stupid!

Mayweather/Ortiz will blow away Pacquiao/Marquez for one main reason: There is no longer any intrigue between Pacquiao and Marquez! Pacquiao avoided Marquez for WAAAAAY too long, and now only a few will be willing to see Marquez try to climb up in weight to fight Manny because we all know Manny won't go down to 135lbs! This even though Manny claims to be "so small".

Freakin pathetic.

Great great post my friend. I agree with everything you said!!