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Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Postit's because NSB is crawling with Floyd f@gs...anything related to PAC, they'll say anything to discredit
the amount of Roach backlash is amazing...yea, its Freddie's fault that Amir doesn't have a chin
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Originally posted by sicko View PostLEARN THE FUNDAMENTALS OF BOXING OTHER THEN JUST THROWING PUNCHES
That said, certain guys can get away with not learning as much as others, and still make a decent run of it, but they're usually guys with freakishly insane punch resistance. Guys like Julio Cesar Chavez, Antonito Margarito, Jake LaMotta, Carlos Monzon, and George Chuvalo.
Which Khan definitely is not.
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Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View PostNo it's Freddie's fault with the game plan that Khan came in with..It's also Roach's fault that Khan has no defense to speak of..On this there is no denying it..That wtf a trainer is for,and both were shh!t poor last night...
I do agree on the defense point, though. Khan needs to be taught how to fight inside, even if he's NOT an inside fighter, because he's inevitably going to find himself in situations where he's going to HAVE to fight inside, at least momentarily, before he can get back out of range and box from the outside.
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Originally posted by streetwaves View PostRoach isn't the right trainer for Khan, but Khan definitely has a huge problem sticking to the gameplan. He always gets dragged into a war. There's no way Roach said "go out and make this a war son", no matter what kind of trainer he is. Khan's got too much heart and too much pride for his own good, especially since his chin is one of the weakest I've ever seen.
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Originally posted by The_Bringer View PostThere is no "game plan" in boxing. Like Garcia's father Angel already said, you can watch all the tapes you want, study your opponet down to his core by learning his habits and tendencies, and prepare all you want but on fight night nothing ever goes exactly as planned, and it's the fighter's job to adapt to what his opponet brings him and improvise his offense around it.
I do agree on the defense point, though. Khan needs to be taught how to fight inside, even if he's NOT an inside fighter, because he's inevitably going to find himself in situations where he's going to HAVE to fight inside, at least momentarily, before he can get back out of range and box from the outside.
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I can see your point.
That said, Khan WAS boxing beautifully until the knockdown. It was the first knockdown that really got him to plant his feet and exchange, which was obviously an utterly ******ed move on his part.
It goes back to the bravado thing I touched on earlier. That **** only works when you have a granite chin and you know with absolute certainty that your opponet can't hurt you. If you don't know in the depths of your heart that you can take your opponet's best shots without being hurt you shouldn't be trading with him in the first place. Especially when said shots just put you on your ass 10 seconds ago and made you stumble like Kelly Pavlik on a DUI test.
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Originally posted by The_Bringer View PostI can see your point.
That said, Khan WAS boxing beautifully until the knockdown. It was the first knockdown that really got him to plant his feet and exchange, which was obviously an utterly ******ed move on his part.
It goes back to the bravado thing I touched on earlier. That **** only works when you have a granite chin and you know with absolute certainty that your opponet can't hurt you. If you don't know in the depths of your heart that you can take your opponet's best shots without being hurt you shouldn't be trading with him in the first place. Especially when said shots just put you on your ass 10 seconds ago and made you stumble like Kelly Pavlik on a DUI test.
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Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Postit's because NSB is crawling with Floyd f@gs...anything related to PAC, they'll say anything to discredit
the amount of Roach backlash is amazing...yea, its Freddie's fault that Amir doesn't have a chin
If Khan is under TR's umbrella, I'd guarantee that they would blame Arum. Anything that makes their idol look good. In reality, it's Floyd who's making their lives miserable. He dumps tons of roadblocks, instead of welcoming a fight that gives him an opportunity to show he's the best, he beat his wife, he threatens security guards, he makes himself look like a clown by throwing dollar bills, he gets pissed at people pushing Paq to him, then rants racist remarks, he accuses without proof, you name it. That's why you'll never see fans as worse as these Floyd worshippers.
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