Julio Cesar Chavez was a guy who showed up, won titles at 130, 135, and 140 destroying everyone he fought. But the level of competition he fought wasn't all that strong, and he got gift decisions against Whitaker and Randall. When he quit against De La Hoya, everybody was shocked. But my thinking is that maybe he was a product of media and the fans making him into this superhuman fighter who had no fear, when in reality he was just as human as the guys he fought. I feel that he was lucky to get the stoppage against Taylor, and was certainly beatable if the right guy was in front of him. But I think his march to 100 wins thing was a little exxagerated given the level of competition he did it against. I think Azumah Nelson would've beaten him if they had fought. While I think Chavez was great, I think he was overrated by history as being indestructable.
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he had the one quality all great fighters need, a cast iron chin, if you know you can take whatever the other guy has you can come forward and close the distance whenever you want
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Chavez was an old school fighter, fought often to showcase his skills, just like Duran did.
Asian Sensation - Don't go by boxrec, you have to live in the moment. Mike Tyson once said during his prime, "everybody at Lightweight should retire...Chavez is too dangerous." That was after Chavez made Rosario's face look like he got jumped. If you don't know by now , Whitaker waited for Chavez to get old. Just like Leonard did to fight Hagler. Whitaker was always asked, when are you going to fight Chavez and he would say when the time is right.
People always talk about the Chavez unbeaten streak. I find it funny if it was that easy how come it had not been done? Regardless who your fighting, you need to come in shape and train hard. Chavez loved to fight I can't say the same about any fighter these days.
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Chavez aged sooner than most people think and most people only see CHavez's career when he was on his downhill slope.
Chavez prime was
130lbs - 135lbs - The beginning of his 140lb reign. Believe it or not even when he beat Camacho, and Hernandez he was already on a downhill spiral. He wasnt training the same, his legendary conditioning was quickly deteriorating, he didnt even move around in the ring the same.
In his prime though he laid a beating on the who's who of the 130 (martinez, Mayweather)- 135 (rosario) and ended the career of a very special 140lb fighter by the name of Taylor. If thats being overrated, then yeah he is over rated.Last edited by .::|ULTIMATE|::.; 01-24-2005, 05:28 PM.
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Originally posted by SweetScienceMike Tyson once said during his prime, "everybody at Lightweight should retire...Chavez is too dangerous."
Originally posted by SweetScienceIf you don't know by now , Whitaker waited for Chavez to get old. Just like Leonard did to fight Hagler. Whitaker was always asked, when are you going to fight Chavez and he would say when the time is right.
Originally posted by SweetSciencePeople always talk about the Chavez unbeaten streak. I find it funny if it was that easy how come it had not been done?
Originally posted by SweetScienceRegardless who your fighting, you need to come in shape and train hard. Chavez loved to fight I can't say the same about any fighter these days.
I think chavez is a great fighter, he is overrated like rocky marciano is overrated (basically no, or just a very very tiny little bit).
Only difference rocky marciano's die hard, pressclippingbelieving fans are not around.
(I am not including you in this list, Sweetscience, your posts are always worth reading)
but pea schooled him and not past his prime, no excuses can be made
asian, good point what would have happened if he fought azuma nelson?
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Originally posted by mutebut pea schooled him and not past his prime, no excuses can be made
Chavez fought more grueling battles, over longer periods of time, Threw and received more punches, got tagged to body countless more times, even low blowed and on the hip countless times, against heavier hitters and quicker fighters. did you ever see him winded and tired then like u did in that fight against Sweet Pea?
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