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  • #31
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
    yeah most species are extinct. most before man came along.

    only animals i care about are edible ones.
    Better start caring. Bees are currently in serious danger and if they become extinct, the human race will not be far behind.

    http://www.ars.usda.gov/news/docs.htm?docid=15572

    Honey bees, which are a critical link in U.S. agriculture, have been under serious pressure from a mystery problem: Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), which is syndrome defined as a dead colony with no adult bees or dead bee bodies but with a live queen and usually honey and immature bees still present. No scientific cause for CCD has been proven.

    But CCD is far from the only risk to the health of honey bees and the economic stability of commercial beekeeping and pollination operations in the United States. Since the 1980s, honey bees and beekeepers have had to deal with a host of new pathogens from deformed wing virus to nosema fungi, new parasites such as Varroa mites, pests like small hive beetles, nutrition problems from lack of diversity or availability in pollen and nectar sources, and possible sublethal effects of pesticides. These problems, many of which honey bees might be able to survive if each were the only one, are often hitting in a wide variety of combinations, and weakening and killing honey bee colonies. CCD may even be a result of a combination of two or more of these factors and not necessarily the same factors in the same order in every instance.
    How does this graph make you feel?

    http://www.whole-systems.org/extinctions.html




    It’s frightening but true: Our planet is now in the midst of its sixth mass extinction of plants and animals — the sixth wave of extinctions in the past half-billion years. We’re currently experiencing the worst spate of species die-offs since the loss of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. Although extinction is a natural phenomenon, it occurs at a natural “background” rate of about one to five species per year. Scientists estimate we’re now losing species at 1,000 to 10,000 times the background rate, with literally dozens going extinct every day [1]. It could be a scary future indeed, with as many as 30 to 50 percent of all species possibly heading toward extinction by mid-century [2].

    Unlike past mass extinctions, caused by events like asteroid strikes, volcanic eruptions, and natural climate shifts, the current crisis is almost entirely caused by us — humans. In fact, 99 percent of currently threatened species are at risk from human activities, primarily those driving habitat loss, introduction of exotic species, and global warming [3]. Because the rate of change in our biosphere is increasing, and because every species’ extinction potentially leads to the extinction of others bound to that species in a complex ecological web, numbers of extinctions are likely to snowball in the coming decades as ecosystems unravel.
    http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/p...nction_crisis/

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Barcham View Post
      Better start caring. Bees are currently in serious danger and if they become extinct, the human race will not be far behind.


      How does this graph make you feel?



      What about all the new species that are found all the time?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by -DEfiance View Post
        That's true to an extent concerning technology, but many environmentalists and many from the scientific community would disagree with you. We are facing a population and environmental crisis. From an environmental point of view, we are absolutely worse off than we have ever been in human history. The planet can only take so much strain.
        Environment is the most serious issue we face today no doubt. When you have 1 of the only two political parties that denies it is even happening, there's a huge problem


        About half the world lives on less than two dollars a day and a third lives on less than a dollar a day.

        Also the entire world's economy depends on China and China is starting to adopt a more isolationist approach. As a result many countries whose entire economy hinges on exporting to china will soon be in recession.
        The poor are actually less poor and the world does not depend on China's economy. In actuality, everything is still set against the American dollar, and American economy is bouncing back very nicely in the face of doom and gloom for 6 years.

        If anything, China is dependent on American consuming.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Willy Wanker View Post
          You sound like you would be a lot of fun at parties
          Are we not destroying this planet? Should I feel pity for a race that thinks it is so superior to all other creatures on the planet that it can do whatever it wishes with no regard to the consequences?

          I don't feel pity for some idiot who thinks he can fly and jumps off a 50 story building either. Do that and you better hope you can evolve some wings before you hit the ground.

          Right now the human race has no answer for the damage we do to the Earth and we are not even trying to find answers because THERE IS NO MONEY IN IT! Well good luck spending the millions and billions of dollars the rich accumulate once the air becomes unbreathable as the plants have died off because the insects which pollinated them and allowed them to reproduce have been killed off by humanity.

          Good luck eating synthetic food because natural food can no longer be grown in sufficient quan****** to feed the overpopulated planet.

          California has drained their water table and is actually sinking as a result. The state will soon be brown, except for the factory farms that are consuming all the water.

          Humans will eventually get what they deserve. We have been here for barely a blip on the overall time frame of the planet - a grain of sand in a desert of time, and once we destroy ourselves, the planet will renew itself and one day in the future another species will evolve and may do a better job than we did. But the Earth will survive, no matter what we do to it, it will survive.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BodiesInFlight View Post
            What about all the new species that are found all the time?
            Yes, we discover many new species per year, around 15,000 actually. But a large percentage of those are varieties of bacteria and lower life forms. We are losing around 50,000 species per year that we know of and who knows how many undiscovered species of life forms come and go without ever being discovered?

            We even find many examples of unknown, now extinct species of animal each and every year.

            But none of that changes the effect of the major species of animal that are becoming extinct with nothing to replace them. If we lose the honey bee, we lose a lot more than honey production. We lose a major part of our food chain. You can discover 1 million new species of bacteria or deep see life and it will not make the slightest difference. Lose a major food source and see what the results are.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Barcham View Post
              Better start caring. Bees are currently in serious danger and if they become extinct, the human race will not be far behind.

              http://www.ars.usda.gov/news/docs.htm?docid=15572



              How does this graph make you feel?

              http://www.whole-systems.org/extinctions.html






              http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/p...nction_crisis/
              we'll replace them with robot bees.

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              • #37
                Well, they are now equipping some Honey Bees with micro sensors in an attempt to track the problem. Goes to show how serious a problem this is.



                http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/08/...-health-study/


                Imagine living in a world without COFFEE or CHOCOLATE!!!


                Without honey bees, we wouldn***8217;t have honey, but we also wouldn***8217;t have chocolate. Or coffee. Bees give us these and so many other delights, including mangos, blueberries, avocados, citrus and dozens of other crops, just by working their natural pollinating magic.
                Read more here: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/living...#storylink=cpy

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                  yeah most species are extinct. most before man came along.

                  only animals i care about are edible ones.
                  The problem is that bees pollinate about 90% of all the world's crops. They are the world's largest natural free labor source.

                  If we had to individually hand pollinate all of the crops that bees currently do for us for free, it's a global undertaking that would cost hundreds billions of dollars per year.

                  You would see the cost of tomatoes, onions, apples, and even boxer briefs, which come from cotton etc go from a dollar a pop to closer to a hundred dollars a pop.
                  Last edited by DARKSEID; 09-01-2015, 04:19 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Last days! Definitely!

                    No question! This is the end!

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