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  • #11
    that or alot of unemployed bastards with a dr. infront of their name.

    nah but really i think women should have the right to chose reguardless of what that child may have become.

    not because their going to turn into a problem child but because some one fuc*ed up and they deserve a second chance. though with regular vists i think their missing the point of something and they deserve to be cut off from the clinic.

    as far as criminals im all for cruel and unusual punishment if some guy rapes a child they need to show him having his finger nails ripped off on live tv before the procced to burn him to death.
    Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 11-10-2009, 06:34 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
      That goes without stating..........Fact.
      Just confirming, only one side was mentioned.

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      • #13
        An unborn fetus isn't the same thing as a baby.

        Anyway, I don't really like the idea of either but I support both the death penalty and abortion in some cases but not all. I don't like the death penalty because of the potentially innocent people that could be put to death and I don't like the idea of abortion because of the potentially irresponsible bitches who will get one every time they get knocked up.

        It is a bit of a paradox though. I think a lot of people don't support the death penalty because of the "what if" factor and not because they really want murderous **** suckers to stay alive.

        Most people I know are against it but the problem with getting rid of abortion is that in the certain cases where it is warranted, it wouldn't be allowed. I'm sorry but a 15 year old girl who was raped by her uncle should have the right to get an abortion.

        I'm guessing this isn't directed at me since I don't really affiliate with either party. I've taken political orientation tests and I'm always pretty much right in the middle.

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        • #14
          You all know who you are.

          Why do you seemingly all love abortion i.e the state sanctioned murder of innocent babies who were never given a chance at the life you take for granted, yet you seem to have some sort of curious moral dilemma when it comes to the death penalty for convicted monsters.

          You don't mind killing babies, but you do mind killing convicted murderers.

          Babies don't get a first chance, but convicted killers get a second, third and fourth chance, and then rehabilitation.

          All on the taxpayers dime.

          Explain yourselves.
          I go huntin and fishin to, and they aint have much of a chance either. I mean yea in my earlier huntin days the deer and turkey stood a big chance of survival but thats drastically diminished now. I'd say the fish have had just about an equal chance throughout... there pro-choice as well. As for the death penalty, well you know im all for that, its kinda our thing down here in Texas.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ABOSWORTH View Post
            I'm guessing this isn't directed at me since I don't really affiliate with either party. I've taken political orientation tests and I'm always pretty much right in the middle.
            According to the affiliation tests I take, I'm an anarchist.

            As far to the left as You can be. Which is always weird.

            I answer the questions to the best of my ability.



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            • #16
              I'm a political centrist which means that I'm described as liberal by authoritarians, authoritarian by liberals, socialist by capitalists and a capitalist by socialists. Dim witted people can't help but see things in partisan terms. The concept of a middle ground is an alien one.

              On abortion the simple fact is that for one reason or another they will still happen whether we want them to or not. So we can either allow them to happen safely under the supervision of medical personell or we can drive it underground providing another stream of revenue for criminals and far more dangers to the women undergoing the procedure.

              The "baby murderer" argument is disingenuous because in the vast majority of cases we're not talking about a viable baby but a collection of non-sentient and non-sensory tissues. Those dramatic partial birth abortions that adorn the posters of the protesters are an extreme rarity occurring in less than 1% of all abortions and which are typically carried out for reasons of medical safety for the mother.

              Another disingenuous argument is the "you could be killing a doctor" gambit. Sure. But you might also be killing a lawyer, think about that.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                I'm a political centrist which means that I'm described as liberal by authoritarians, authoritarian by liberals, socialist by capitalists and a capitalist by socialists. Dim witted people can't help but see things in partisan terms. The concept of a middle ground is an alien one.

                On abortion the simple fact is that for one reason or another they will still happen whether we want them to or not. So we can either allow them to happen safely under the supervision of medical personell or we can drive it underground providing another stream of revenue for criminals and far more dangers to the women undergoing the procedure.

                The "baby murderer" argument is disingenuous because in the vast majority of cases we're not talking about a viable baby but a collection of non-sentient and non-sensory tissues. Those dramatic partial birth abortions that adorn the posters of the protesters are an extreme rarity occurring in less than 1% of all abortions and which are typically carried out for reasons of medical safety for the mother.

                Another disingenuous argument is the "you could be killing a doctor" gambit. Sure. But you might also be killing a lawyer, think about that.
                If capital punishment is outlawed it could lead to criminal ways to kill these people like lynchings.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Danny Gunz View Post
                  If capital punishment is outlawed it could lead to criminal ways to kill these people like lynchings.
                  But lynchings are illegal and vigilante action is not tolerated, hence it is not an issue in places which have abolished the death penalty.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                    But lynchings are illegal and vigilante action is not tolerated, hence it is not an issue in places which have abolished the death penalty.
                    Well with that logic then underground abortions should not be a factor if abortions were ever made illegal.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Danny Gunz View Post
                      Well with that logic then underground abortions should not be a factor if abortions were ever made illegal.
                      Lynchings are a little harder to do in secret than abortions. Let's put it another way: Societies in which the death penalty is abolished do not have a problem with illegal lynchings. Societies in which abortion is prohibited DO have a problem with illegal abortions.

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