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  • Originally posted by Gerry_NineT1 View Post
    Trust me tip, the best policy with stupid racist *******s is to ignore them and let them live in their little hateful bubble.
    Well the best policy wouldn't be to debate head on because in any fair debate you're going to lose big time.

    http://jenab6.livejournal.com/12317.html

    Why leftists fear to debate racists.

    Debate Restrictions.

    For as long as there have been public debates about race, liberals have tried to restrict the spectrum of allowed speech by declaring their opponents' best arguments out-of-bounds. They corrupt the governing rules of forums with administrative policies that establish their own views on the subject as the only permissible views and define dissent as "hate speech." Then if anyone disagrees with the liberal thinking, he will be found guilty of "violating the rules" and banned.

    In other words, the leftists first gain the power to write the rules, and then they write cheater's rules rather than fair ones. Their justification is preventing offense to racial minorities. Although there's nothing wrong with choosing to remain silent in order to avoid giving offense, the freedom of speech has a higher value than politeness does. When one value must be sacrificed to preserve another, then the lesser should be let go and the greater kept.

    What the liberals are doing, of course, is leveling heresy charges against racism, and then acting as both prosecutor and judge of the matter. Whether racists sometimes make good arguments, in the sense that they include statements that are both important and true, doesn't matter to liberals, who don't consider truth to be a defense. The better a racist's argument is, the more it threatens to expose the errors of liberalism, and therefore liberals are more inclined to call for the censorship of thoughtful racist arguments than for the censorship of poor ones.

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    http://jenab6.livejournal.com/12317.html

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    • Originally posted by Tim Horton View Post
      hurt? wrong. i honestly think that your parents should have never had the right to bear children. you were neglected or taught this crap. either way, your parents dropped the ball.

      you can think what you like though.
      Ha ha, what a joke. My parents are Obama voting liberals. Of course, they never had to deal with large numbers of black people like I do so unlike them I know better.

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      • When Mexico first went into war, it was with the Republic of Texas, the only state that has ever been a republic and can fly a Texan flag at the same level of an American flag.

        When Mexico went to war with the Texas Republic, both sides were Mexicans, I've heard stories where brothers where fighting against each other, one supporting Mexico and the other supporting Texas. The "Tejanos" as they were called later regretted fighting for the Texas Republic because once American laws where established they were treated like foreigners.

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        • Originally posted by Darkstar View Post
          First off, race related research is apart of liberal media political correctness. Certain people are very scared to hear that race does exist and final scientific proof to be openly published. So its more of a political game then science at this point.

          Thus, views like Leroi’s have been largely marginalized. The race-isn’t-real doctrine prevails, typically portrayed by backers as settled fact that only racists or their dupes could question. It “can be something close to professional suicide” for researchers to even suggest race exists, psychiatrist Sally Satel wrote in the Dec. 2001-Jan. 2002 issue of the magazine Policy Review.



          Some researchers said that now that Venter has dropped the 99.9 percent claim, he should also admit race might exist. Denial of that “obvious” fact is “an extreme manifestation of political correctness,” wrote Richard Lynn, a psychologist who has proposed links between race and intelligence, in an email. Lynn, of the University of Ulster in Ireland, added that he thinks Venter has unfairly maligned scientists who believe race exists.



          Despite all of this, more and more the truth is coming out. Even from the people who put out such claims in the first place. Venter didn’t originate the notion that race isn’t real. But his support of it has carried great weight because he is something of a star, thanks to his key role in the high-profile Human Genome Project, completed in 2003.

          A renowned scientist has backed off a finding that he, joined by others, long touted as evidence for what they called a proven fact: that racial differences among people are imaginary.

          That idea—entrenched today in academia, and often used to castigate scholars who study race—has drawn much of its scientific backing from a finding that all people are 99.9 percent genetically alike.



          But geneticist Craig Venter, head of a research team that reported that figure in 2001, backed off it in an announcement this week. He said human variation now turns out to be over seven times greater than was thought, though he’s not changing his position on race.

          Some other scientists have disputed the earlier figure for years as underestimating human variation. Venter, instead, has cited the number as key evidence that race is imaginary. He once declared that “no serious scholar” doubts that, though again, some recent studies have contradicted it.


          First, there is no absolute definition of race or what are the different races. The number of races delineated vary among the cultures making the racial distinctions. It's arbitrary. Second, DNA tells which area you came from. As humans migrated around the earth, mutations occurred which can be identified by date and place. DNA can tell you that you are from the northern Mideast. So is that a distinct race?

          There is no way to tell what race a DNA sample comes from because no genetic markers exist. Why is that? Because people from the same area/region but of different ethnic groups have adapted to the same climate of the said region, which required certian physical traits. India, Oceanians, Aboriginal Austrailians, and Native Americans have dark skin but differ from Africans because it's a different region and area of the planet requiring slight genetic variations to survive in that region. You can tell a different ethnic group from another ethnic group, just like you can tell a family from another family. Slight genetic variations do differ from nation to nation and tribe to tribe. However, that does not constitute the race. Human variation is measurable, but it does not lump into races. Also, there's more genetic variation within groups than in between them.

          You really have no argument. Race does not exist in humans unless you completely redefine what race is. If you do that, then the number of races would be in the double digits.

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