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Pac at 19 a WBC champ/lineal champ, by 24 a 3 divisions/2 lineal champ = juicing?
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Originally posted by Chemolina View PostYou are exactly right. Berto and Peterson tested positive on VADA protocol. Manny has only been tested with the weak commission stuff. Now, I'm not saying that he is juicing but the sport needs to test year round. VADA and USADA are better than the "standard" commission testing but still can be beat.
Fast forward of today, Chavez, Berto and Peterson were caught by these urine testing but none from Floyd random blood testing. You get the point?
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Originally posted by malaak View PostFloyd's stance was and is. You don't beat 122, 126, 130lb fighters the way Manny did which he knocked some guys out and beat some guys up. Then go up to 135, 140, 147, 154 and beat those men much more impressively than you beat the men at lower weights.
Floyd's point is you didn't go up and outbox Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cheato, Shane, Cotto and Clottey. Pac beat them the F up. So if you hit Margarito who walks around at 180+ and broke his orbital bone, you have Shane say no boxer has EVER hit Me that hard LOGICALLY what should you do to the men who walk around at a much lighter weight IF you are the same fighter?
So since I have a question about the legitamacy of your Power you have brought up with you Manny submit to a test - the same test I will submit to. The test will be handled by a world recognized organization and we will fight.
So don't paint the picture to suit either side paint the picture for what it is I fight men who walk around in the 130s/140s and knock them down and beat them up. But I fight men who walk around 170/180s and not only do I beat them up I beat these bigger men up worse then I beat men 30 lbs less in weight I retire a couple I rearrange the face of couple others I knock onse out cold and break ones face.
Come on!
140-154 were slow compared to lower weight guys..
you cannot do damage on someone you seldom hit..
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Pac was a natural talent even before roach got him, and Pac didnt have a proper real deal trainer.
Pac may have even got better if he didnt have Roach, as Roach says he is the best trainer in the world as hes got the best fighter in the world. Maybe if Pac had of used another manny, manny steward, steward would be the best trainer in the world.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostPac was a natural talent even before roach got him, and Pac didnt have a proper real deal trainer.
Pac may have even got better if he didnt have Roach, as Roach says he is the best trainer in the world as hes got the best fighter in the world. Maybe if Pac had of used another manny, manny steward, steward would be the best trainer in the world.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostPac was a natural talent even before roach got him, and Pac didnt have a proper real deal trainer.
Pac may have even got better if he didnt have Roach, as Roach says he is the best trainer in the world as hes got the best fighter in the world. Maybe if Pac had of used another manny, manny steward, steward would be the best trainer in the world.
Mayweathers saying Pacquiao is on PEDS is a compliment because he's that damn good.
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Originally posted by daggum View Posthow many times has floyd been tested by VADA? oh zero. strange how VADA catches 2 al haymon cohorts but floyd is still doing the USADA testing. under USADA peterson wouldn't have been caught...what a surprise. i guess floyd doesn't want the best testing after all.
How many times has pac used VADA or USADA?
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Originally posted by Rapid Counter View PostWhy is it strange that Floyd doesn't use VADA? He was using USADA before VADA even existed. Did it occur to you that VADA caught dirty athletes because it tested dirty athletes? Maybe the fighters who were tested by USADA were clean and that's why they didn't get caught for anything. Does that make sense? It should make sense even for a child.
How many times has pac used VADA or USADA?
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