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  • #11
    Originally posted by ~Tunney
    No, the Palestinians - many of which are Christians, by the way - just want a secure place to live without being treated like animals.

    Don't believe everything you hear from the US media. Most Arabs, whether they be Muslims or Christians, don't wan't to blow up innocent people. A few months ago 1400 mostly innocent civilians in Gaza died at the hands of the Israeli's, and since then many more have died from malnutrition because of the blockade.
    If the only palestinians the Israelis had to deal with were the christians, there would be nothing left to fight over. Also, the palestinians who are blowing up innocents are most definitely not the christian ones.

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    • #12
      young carter, go faster, go farther, go harder. Is that not why we came? And if not then why bother?


      WHAT SONG!?!?!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Dubious-Dutch View Post

        Not really.

        Zionists are a well known public entity. Unless of course you've been under a rock for the past 20+ years.

        But sticking to the topic, it is quite heart-breaking knowing people with families are bring deprived from basic things, whereas just around the corner, there are other families living in Luxory.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by minion View Post
          But sticking to the topic, it is quite heart-breaking knowing people with families are bring deprived from basic things, whereas just around the corner, there are other families living in Luxory.
          That's called Earth .



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          • #15
            Originally posted by ~Tunney
            Over 90% of the Maronite and Orthodox Christians have left Israel and the occupied territories - the number remaining gets smaller every year. Their lives are miserable living in apartheid situation that Desmond Tutu says is "worse than it ever was in South Africa".

            Here's an article by Desmond Tutu:

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/apr/29/comment
            I don't dispute that their lives are miserable piles of **** but that's the fault of hamas and the other pseudo-political parties that run Palestine. The Israelis aren't going anywhere and if they don't recognize that and deal with them there's going to be nothing but misery in Palestine for generations to come.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by jpitt View Post
              I don't dispute that their lives are miserable piles of **** but that's the fault of hamas and the other pseudo-political parties that run Palestine. The Israelis aren't going anywhere and if they don't recognize that and deal with them there's going to be nothing but misery in Palestine for generations to come.
              Er.. i disagree.. Completely

              Israel has always treated Palestine the same, regardless of who is in power.

              Now Hamas is in power, it says it wants Fatah.

              But remember when Fatah was in power? Yasser Arafat was an evil tyrant according to them, and Fatah was a terrorist organization.

              It don't matter mate, who ever is in charge, they will never be treated like Human beings, and for that, there will always be groups of armed resistance.

              You can't expect millions of people to be forced to live like Animals without getting angry over it, basic human emotion.

              As for your final sentence, the fact is Israel refuses to recognize Christians and Muslims as part of an Israeli state.

              Just a few days ago the Israeli leadership said there will be a a two state solution as long as Israel is recognized as a Jewish state, but where does this leave the Millions of Christian and Muslim Israeli-Arabs in Israel?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by ~Tunney
                But this is a different situation. The deprivation of Palestinians is unnessary, caused by the Israeli blockade of the Gaza ghetto.

                Those things would be taken into Gaza if not for the Israelis preventing it.
                Right but once again, it's a War.

                Atrocities are very much a common theme. Isolated instances for the purpose of discussion only leads to a conflict in ideology. If you were to ask the State Israeli for his sentiments regarding fair treatment or in this case the "unnecessary" deprivations:

                He'd say where was the fair treatment to the innocent Jews who were blown up in one of the many shopping malls targeted by cell terror factions?



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                • #18
                  Honestly treating people like animals and having no regard for life:

                  Is walking into a shopping mall strapped with explosives...........detonating it and killing dozens of little Children. That's the real enemy.

                  ****ing raghead terrorists.



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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
                    Honestly treating people like animals and having no regard for life:

                    Is walking into a shopping mall strapped with explosives...........detonating it and killing dozens of little Children. That's the real enemy.

                    ****ing raghead terrorists.
                    Dude, Dropping Napalm, Phosphorous bombs and targeting hospitals is the exact same thing.

                    You just need to look at the recent conflict a few months ago, that even UN-Safe sights for civilians were bombed heavily, Dang even the few food supplies were destroyed.

                    Facts are Facts, looking at the bigger picture says it all

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by minion View Post
                      Dude, Dropping Napalm, Phosphorous bombs and targeting hospitals is the exact same thing.

                      You just need to look at the recent conflict a few months ago, that even UN-Safe sights for civilians were bombed heavily, Dang even the few food supplies were destroyed.

                      Facts are Facts, looking at the bigger picture says it all
                      Right and what it still says to me to this day:

                      Is that people are picking and choosing sides in a war that has absolutely no affect on their life, has no bearing on their ideologies, or other....... outside of common violations of civil rights. Worldly theme and hardly a taboo one, considering a day doesn't pass where a new trend doesn't rise in different countries.


                      Outside of a sheer Anti-Sematic Agenda I don't see any cause for supporting the Palestinians. That's being biased towards an entire group of people.



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