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The Art of Hating Floyd Mayweather
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By now everyone knows Bob manipulated the media against Floyd. All to avoid having his fighter dismantled by his former fighter.
Bob (Pre- Floyd Breakup): "This kid is the best I have ever seen since Ali, Leonard and sliced bread put together."
Bob (Post- Floyd Breakup): "Floyd doesn't fight big guys. He won't fight someone who can beat him! He won't fight a Shane Mosley ..."
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Originally posted by MindBat View PostBy now everyone knows Bob manipulated the media against Floyd. All to avoid having his fighter dismantled by his former fighter.
Bob (Pre- Floyd Breakup): "This kid is the best I have ever seen since Ali, Leonard and sliced bread put together."
Bob (Post- Floyd Breakup): "Floyd doesn't fight big guys. He won't fight someone who can beat him! He won't fight a Shane Mosley ..."
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The art of hating Mayweather? They make it sound like a thesis discussion or something on the discovery channel
As for hating mayweather, there's always people on top of the game liked/disliked
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I don't think "hating" Mayweather is an art, he's a pretty easy guy to hate on. Even if you forget about his off-ring behavior, possible failed PED tests and his constant hypocrisy you've still got his outright ducking, inactivity, and boring fights.
I don't know much about his stint from 130 & 135 so I can't knit pick 'em much. Regardless, aside from a few names those divisions looked pretty weak.
130: Picked up the WBC title.
Fought Genaro Hernandez & Diego Corrales
Genaro's best wins: SD robbery vs Azumah Nelson? (& getting KO'd by ODH in 6)
Corrales' best wins (prior to Floyd fight): Roberto Garcia & Angel Manfredy? (He's greatest achievements are going 1-2 with Casamayor and 1-1 with Jose Luis Castillo, even though he got KO'd by both; also lost to Clottey).
135: Picked up the WBC title.
Fought Jose Luis Castillo
Castillo's best wins (prior to Floyd fight): Stevie Johnston? (He also had 4 KO losses and a draw prior to fighting Floyd; would go on to KO Corrales and rob Casamayor in a split decision as well as losing all he's meaningful fights thereafter--including a loss to Sebastian Lujan and a RD4 KO to Hatton).
140: Picked up the WBC title.
Fought DeMarcus Corley & Artuto Gatti
Corley's best wins (prior to Floyd fight): Randall Bailey (who had just been KO'd by Diosbelys Hurtado) Note: Corley was coming from a loss to Judah where he lost his WBO title. He had won the title from a bum (TKO1 Felix Flores) after the title had been vacated.
Gatti's best wins (prior to Floyd fight): Tracy Harris Patterson?, Jesse Leija, Micky Ward? (Had already lost 6 times, mostly to mediocre opposition and had won a vacant title against an unknown 'Gianluca Branco')
147: Picked up the WBC title (on a few occasions) & the IBF title.
Fought (you guys know the story inall these fights):
Zab Judah (coming from a Baldomir loss), Carlos Baldomir (lol), Hatton (Finest glass in all of Manchester!), Marquez (coming from 135), Mosley (old & over 15 months inactive), Victor Ortiz (a young hungry lion stopped by Maidana and later by a Josesito moving up)
Ducked: Prime 147 Pacquiao (2008-11), Prime Paul Williams (2007-10), Prime Antonio Margarito (2005-08), Prime Cotto (2004-08)
154: Picked up the WBC (in 2007) & the WBA (in 2012)
Fought Oscar De La Hoya (shot, slow, jabless, poor footwork--nothing like the original ODH) & Miguel Cotto (shot, slow, small 154 pounder, lost to the only good opposition he fought at 154 and had been through too many wars: Mosley, Margarito I/II, Clottey, Pacquiao)
Note: Mayweather probably had two of his three toughest fights in this division.
Ducked: Winky Wright; elected to vacate his 154 WBC and fight Hatton rather Forrest (not necessarily a duck but I feel Forrest v Mayweather would have been more interesting).
Note: Mayweather has been a decent titleholder at this weight but should never be considered a Champion at 154.
Final Note: I personally rate Mayweather as being either the best or second best fighter of the last decade (so does mostly everyone else), however, I feel many of his fights are vastly overrated as though he'd fought the 4 Kings or something of that nature.
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I dislike the fact that he is the WBC welterweight champ and the WBA Jr. middleweight champion but he won't say when or if he intends to defend either tittle. Both the WBA and the WBC should order him to defend the tittle or step down but they give him special treatment because he is the big star.He claims to love the sport of boxing and want to help boxing. If that's true he should pick the weight class he will fight in and give up the tittle in the other weight class. Then he should say when he will defend his tittle. If he is not going to defend either tittle then give them both up. There are contenders out there trying hard to be champions but they can't because Floyd is sitting on both tittles. He has not defended his WBC welterweight tittle in 19 months.
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Originally posted by Teri View Postanybody that gets on here and fronts like they are not a fan should punch themselves you get on here and defend pac man but you do it in a way that you try to seem like you are not a fan boy but you manage to call every floyd fan a bum sniff lol gtfoh
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its all floyd's fault that he gets all that hate. yeah but he's no loser or anything. and if anyone says he doesnt care, i dont think so, ofcourse he does. Otherwise he doesnt get wild up in interviews and cry.
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Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostI don't think "hating" Mayweather is an art, he's a pretty easy guy to hate on. Even if you forget about his off-ring behavior, possible failed PED tests and his constant hypocrisy you've still got his outright ducking, inactivity, and boring fights.
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostI don't know much about his stint from 130 & 135 so I can't knit pick 'em much. Regardless, aside from a few names those divisions looked pretty weak.
Floyd made it a point to consistently fight the #1, 2 and 3 in EVERY division. The best are the best regardless of how you feel things might have seemed "better" if Floyd would have done things your way.
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post130: Picked up the WBC title.
Fought Genaro Hernandez & Diego Corrales
Genaro's best wins: SD robbery vs Azumah Nelson? (& getting KO'd by ODH in 6)
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostCorrales' best wins (prior to Floyd fight): Roberto Garcia & Angel Manfredy? (He's greatest achievements are going 1-2 with Casamayor and 1-1 with Jose Luis Castillo, even though he got KO'd by both; also lost to Clottey).
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post135: Picked up the WBC title.
Fought Jose Luis Castillo
Castillo's best wins (prior to Floyd fight): Stevie Johnston? (He also had 4 KO losses and a draw prior to fighting Floyd; would go on to KO Corrales and rob Casamayor in a split decision as well as losing all he's meaningful fights thereafter--including a loss to Sebastian Lujan and a RD4 KO to Hatton).
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post140: Picked up the WBC title.
Fought DeMarcus Corley & Artuto Gatti
Corley's best wins (prior to Floyd fight): Randall Bailey (who had just been KO'd by Diosbelys Hurtado) Note: Corley was coming from a loss to Judah where he lost his WBO title. He had won the title from a bum (TKO1 Felix Flores) after the title had been vacated.
Gatti's best wins (prior to Floyd fight): Tracy Harris Patterson?, Jesse Leija, Micky Ward? (Had already lost 6 times, mostly to mediocre opposition and had won a vacant title against an unknown 'Gianluca Branco')
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post147: Picked up the WBC title (on a few occasions) & the IBF title.
Fought (you guys know the story inall these fights):
Zab Judah (coming from a Baldomir loss), Carlos Baldomir (lol), Hatton (Finest glass in all of Manchester!), Marquez (coming from 135), Mosley (old & over 15 months inactive), Victor Ortiz (a young hungry lion stopped by Maidana and later by a Josesito moving up)
What's most interesting about your ^^^ critique is that if you were to judge Pacquiao by the same criteria, then his whole WW and jrMW campaigns amount to nothing as Pacquiao wouldn't fight any WW not coming off of a loss or a loss followed up by a tune up. Every great fighter that Pacquiao faced at WW was beaten by someone else before Manny was willing to chance it.
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostDucked: Prime 147 Pacquiao (2008-11), Prime Paul Williams (2007-10), Prime Antonio Margarito (2005-08), Prime Cotto (2004-08)
How do you duck a prime Williams who lost to gatekeeper Quintana right after beating Margarito?
How do you duck Margarito or Cotto who couldn't even hold on to the biggest wins of their careers for even 8 months? Both men lost in brutal fashion in their next fights!!
Stop the lying. It only hurts your opinions.
Prime Pacquiao? Hahahaha ... Pacquiao is still prime, but as long as he isn't draining WWs or jrMWs he'll always looked passed his supposed best. Puhleez.
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post154: Picked up the
WBC (in 2007) & the WBA (in 2012)
Fought Oscar De La Hoya (shot, slow, jabless, poor footwork--nothing like the original ODH) & Miguel Cotto (shot, slow, small 154 pounder, lost to the only good opposition he fought at 154 and had been through too many wars: Mosley, Margarito I/II, Clottey, Pacquiao)
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostNote: Mayweather probably had two of his three toughest fights in this division.
Ducked: Winky Wright; elected to vacate his 154 WBC and fight Hatton rather Forrest (not necessarily a duck but I feel Forrest v Mayweather would have been more interesting).
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostNote: Mayweather has been a decent titleholder at this weight but should never be considered a Champion at 154.
Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostFinal Note: I personally rate Mayweather as being either the best or second best fighter of the last decade (so does mostly everyone else), however, I feel many of his fights are vastly overrated as though he'd fought the 4 Kings or something of that nature.
Ali was said to be highly overrated during his active years. Only die hard Ali fans were calling him the greatest back then. We see how **** ended up though.
Ali was just as much a d!ck as Floyd. And the people both loved and hated him for it. The numbers don't lie. Just like they don't lie for Floyd either.
Consistency against the best and challenging and pushing one's self will always lead to greatness.
Hate the era. Don't hate the game.
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