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  • Originally posted by AddiX View Post
    Who have we paid back? We're still in debt, so we owe someone money.

    . Clinton cleared the debt, we had 0 debt when Clinton left office, bush put it astronomically high as soon as he got in office and Obama has been trying to fix it ever since, and the debt has already dropped significantly

    FYI, our credit rating was lowered just a few short years ago.

    Our credit rating shouldn't of been lowered, it was lowered to teach those dumb fcking republicans to stop playing games with the national debt. They were trying to hold the country hostage by not passing a spending budget, that's why the debt credit was dropped, and that's why republicans stopped playing that insane game


    More Americans have died fighting wars under Democrat Presidents than Rep Presidents the last 100 years. By far.

    That's not even remotely true, STFU with this nonsense, republicans start wars, democrats end them, almost every war, it's the same script

    I'll be happy to provide the numbers if asked, but I will expect a concession I was correct if I do so.

    As for the wars today, those were voted 'Yes' in a bi-partisan manner. Dems like Hillary, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid all voted 'Yes' on Congressional legislation authorizing Bush the use of force in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    yes those democrats voted yes, they didn't want to be labeled cowards, and because of it I support none of them

    LMAO!! It's because they expect to be paid back, with interest.

    They expect to get paid back because they will, we always pay our debts, which is why we get loans at the lowest rates in the entire world

    National debt was 10.6 Trillion when he took office, it is now over 18 Trillion and estimates are that the debt will be 20 Trillion by the time he leaves office.


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/1/obama-presidency-to-end-with-20-trillion-national-/?page=all



    Our current debt is nearly the equivalent to what it was during WWII, tipping in at 100% of our national GDP. Both times, then and now, the White House was occupied by a Democrat.

    Our economy is schit.........was talking to a guy yesterday and he said he graduated from UVA two years ago in Chemical Engineering and his graduating class had a hire rate of 33% (67% of graduates couldn't find a job). Obama hasn't done a damn thing to help out our debt, it's metastasized like a tumor to uncontrollable levels.

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    • Originally posted by AddiX View Post
      Who have we paid back? We're still in debt, so we owe someone money.

      [B]. Clinton cleared the debt, we had 0 debt when Clinton left office, bush put it astronomically high as soon as he got in office
      It appears someone has been getting their knowledge from John Stewart if you think that the national debt went to zero.


      everything you say after that is irrelevant.
      Last edited by One_Tycoon; 01-27-2016, 08:28 PM.

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      • Originally posted by AddiX View Post

        Socialism worked in Cuba, they have free health care and it's a great system, and they have a higher literacy rate than the U.S.
        Cuba's population 11+ million.

        U.S.'s population: 318+ million

        I think we can dig up 11 million ppl who are literate in less than 2 states.



        Go do some research on the Stats of the happiest countries in the world. They do them every year.
        Happiness is subjective. I might be happiest when running over cats buried up to their neck in the backyard with my lawnmower. But that's just me. Maybe some ppl are not happy living in cradle to grave mediocrity.

        Also, see suicide rate in Denmark:
        http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ch-higher-den/

        Every year it's the Nordic countries that are rated the highest like 5-6 out 7 all socialist Nordoc countries.
        Nordic countries are not full blown socialist. They're welfare states...where socialism parasites off of the pockets of Capitalism, until the former overtakes the latter, and they're forced to cut back with market reforms, as their history shows.

        But again...maybe not everyone wants to live in mediocrity where all your needs are taken care off at the expense of little to no innovation.

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        • Originally posted by mathed View Post

          National debt was 10.6 Trillion when he took office, it is now over 18 Trillion and estimates are that the debt will be 20 Trillion by the time he leaves office.


          http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/1/obama-presidency-to-end-with-20-trillion-national-/?page=all



          Our current debt is nearly the equivalent to what it was during WWII, tipping in at 100% of our national GDP. Both times, then and now, the White House was occupied by a Democrat.

          Our economy is schit.........was talking to a guy yesterday and he said he graduated from UVA two years ago in Chemical Engineering and his graduating class had a hire rate of 33% (67% of graduates couldn't find a job). Obama hasn't done a damn thing to help out our debt, it's metastasized like a tumor to uncontrollable levels.
          Your correct, not sure where I got the national debt from. Thanks for correcting me.

          Most of that is due to the wars though. Which bush sure as fck never paid for.

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            Originally posted by 0ne_Capitalist View Post
            [B]Cuba's population 11+ million.

            U.S.'s population: 318+ million

            I think we can dig up 11 million ppl who are literate in less than 2 states.
            What does that have to do with anything, I said rate, not total. And they've had universal health care for a long time.

            Were talking a dirt poor country that has had an embargo against it.


            Happiness is subjective. I might be happiest when running over cats buried up to their neck in the backyard with my lawnmower. But that's just me. Maybe some ppl are not happy living in cradle to grave mediocrity.

            Also, see suicide rate in Denmark:
            http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ch-higher-den/
            As I told the other guy the reports are done by studying quality of life, which is quantifiable. There not subjective.


            [B][COLOR="DarkRed"]Nordic countries are not full blown socialist. They're welfare states...where socialism parasites off of the pockets of Capitalism, until the former overtakes the latter, and they're forced to cut back with market reforms, as their history shows.
            I never said they were full blown socialist, but some of these places your paying near 70% towards taxes.

            Heck, I never even said we should become a socialist country, but aspects of it are fine. I don't hear anyone complaining about there social security checks.

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            • Originally posted by mathed View Post
              You should have corrected him on his assertion that "Clinton cleared the debt, we had 0 debt when Clinton left office" instead. That was the more important mistake.

              The national debt was 4.4 trillion when Clinton took office in the 90's, and the national debt was 5.8 trillion when Clinton left office in the 2000's, adding over 1.4 trillion in debt during his 8 years in office.

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              • http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the...under-clinton/

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                • Are you really a low IQ moron or do you just pretend for the sake of trolling?

                  Do you not understand the difference between year-by-year Deficits and total National Debt. Your link talks about deficits.

                  The national debt as whole went up 1.4 trillion from 1993 until 2001.

                  The vary own link you posted even acknowledged this:
                  The debt the government owes to the public decreased for a while under Clinton, but the debt was by no means erased.

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                  • And i love how leftists like to throw out 'factcheck' as the standard barrier...without even knowingthe the content and what it is talking about.

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                    • Originally posted by AddiX View Post
                      No its not, they use quantifiable evidence to do these reports on quality of life.
                      Maybe they do, but you specifically said "happiness", and happiness is subjective.

                      Originally posted by AddiX View Post
                      This is why I told you to research it before replying to me but you did exactly what I expected and just continued running your mouth.
                      I didn't need to read it, as I was replying to what you said.

                      BTW, I've seen many of those polls. That's really all they are, polls. They always rank places like Cuba higher than the US, despite the fact Cuba literally kills people for trying to LEAVE. Call me what you will, but I can't comprehend how a country where they kill you for trying to leave can be better than a country that freely allows it's citizens to leave it.

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