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  • #41
    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
    Nobody is going to see how good he is because he is wasting his career hiding in the weakest division imaginable whilst fickle fans justify it, claiming everyone is scared of him.
    Any of other fighter its a case of whats the point, move up, dare to be great.

    ''Oh hes a small MW'' So? It was only 5 minutes ago your backtracking ass was telling everyone he clears out 168 and 175 now hes too small?
    He hydrates to 173 which is as much as Froch and Kessler!

    Go up forget Ward! Fight Andre Dirrell should he win this weekend. If no Dirrell his brother or DeGale.
    That would be my whole issue with Golovkin, he can hang out at 160 if he wants I guess but waiting around for Cotto and Canelo to fight then hoping the winner finds time to see him. How long is all this taking (if it takes place at all) for a guy already well into his 30's, who has a lot of rounds under his belt (a lot amateur).

    The better division his whole time at 160 has been 68, and in those situations guys normally don't hang out in the junk division unless there is a reason (think big fish, small pond).

    Now that doesn't have to be true but those thoughts do creep in the longer he languishes at 160 waiting for a decent opportunity.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by buge View Post
      Andre Ward is a solid fighter, but he has a questionable chin and minimal power. The only advantage he has is that he is bigger (which is a definite advantage), but people are acting like Ward has some unbeatable combination of skills, which is ridiculous. If not for the Super Six, nobody would have cared if he had beaten who he did. It was the fact that all these guys were in a tournament on Showtime that made it special. The six competitors were not all beasts.

      Who has Andre Ward beaten that is elite? Froch - who should have about 5 losses by now? Kessler, who's only claim to fame is losing to Calzaghe, and who was headbutted by Ward repeatedly?

      His best wins:
      • A drained Chad Dawson, who had a good run for a little while at LHW but had no business being at super middleweight and who has been discovered to have a glass chin.
      • A blown up Arthur Abraham, who had a good run at MW against nobodies but had no business being at super middleweight. He also lost his previous two fights in the Super Six before losing to Ward.
      • Allan Green a B- fighter at best, who has lost every time he's even come close to stepping up.
      • Edison Miranda - another fighter who has lost every time he stepped up, and was dominated and stopped by Pavlik at 160 which Ward couldn't do.
      • Carl Froch - the best win for Ward, but it wouldn't be considered as good if Froch had another two or three losses like he could've easily had. This guy has had a bunch of lucky wins. He should've lost to Jermain Taylor but pulled a lucky punch out of his ass right before the end. He should've lost to Groves in the first fight but probably paid off the ref to call it at the first excuse. He could've easily lost to Dirrell in a disputed decision. He barely beat an ancient Glen Johnson. He did lose to Kessler in the first fight, and the second was questionable.
      • Mikkel Kessler - a good win for Ward, although Ward headbutted him into submission. Kessler is a solid fighter, but nobody is putting him into the hall of fame. Kessler is most famous for losing the fight to Calzaghe.
      You tried to discredit Wards opponents but didnt mention the face that GGG's opposition is worse lol...

      Andre Ward would beat him because he actually is a very good boxer with skills...GGG has never put up with that

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