How old is the human race?

[Joeyzagz]

If humans are apes why cant our women carry any of their babies?

Even Tigers and Lions can cross breed but not humans and apes. Totally different.

[Jim Jeffries]

Humans ARE apes. This can be proven.

Ken Miller (one of the leading biologists in the world) explains.



So no, humans are not older than apes.

It is my understanding that apes encompass all hominoidea besides humans.

[arraamis]

That is a really nice attempt from your part to sound smart. however, you have proved how ignorant and moronic you are by saying, "you're attempting to debate." No one is debating evolution. Evolution is a fact theory. Those that are still debating against evolution are by far the biggest idiots in the world. since the 1940's-1950's all modern religions have accepted evolution as fact.

even Pope John Paul II the catholic leader accepted evolution as fact and wanted the world to accept evolution.

simply best put by David Byers, executive director of the U.S. bishops' Committee on Science and Human Values from 1984 to 2003, has said that, “Denying that humans evolved from apes seems by this point a waste of time.”

So arraamis do you want to waste time debating evolution?

Thx for supporting my claim, that you are clueless and ignorant of what you're attempting to discuss.

Fact: noun
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.

Theory:
a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action
a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation
c : an unproved assumption : conjecture

[deliveryman]

It is my understanding that apes encompass all hominoidea besides humans.

Then you've clearly misunderstood.

A simple wiki search would suffice.

[Jim Jeffries]

Then you've clearly misunderstood.

A simple wiki search would suffice.

Well one of us certainly is.

Under

Historical and modern terminology

The diagram below shows the currently accepted evolutionary relationships of the Hominoidea,[2] with the apes marked by a bracket.

there are two diagrams (which Wiki won't let me copy) that clearly show that while Humans are Hominoids, they are not apes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

[arraamis]

That is a really nice attempt from your part to sound smart. however, you have proved how ignorant and moronic you are by saying, "you're attempting to debate." No one is debating evolution. Evolution is a fact theory. Those that are still debating against evolution are by far the biggest idiots in the world. since the 1940's-1950's all modern religions have accepted evolution as fact.

even Pope John Paul II the catholic leader accepted evolution as fact and wanted the world to accept evolution.

simply best put by David Byers, executive director of the U.S. bishops' Committee on Science and Human Values from 1984 to 2003, has said that, “Denying that humans evolved from apes seems by this point a waste of time.”

So arraamis do you want to waste time debating evolution?

Now, let's deal with this other BS you're ignorantly stating. Evolution has always been subject of debate, by some of the most respected scientific minds. Your declaration of evolution beings a factual conclusion, demonstrates that your reverberating posters and billboards, without really completing any independent research which would put you in a better position to discuss the topic at hand.

even Pope John Paul II the catholic leader accepted evolution as fact and wanted the world to accept evolution.

So, if the Pope accepts a theory as possible, that is all the proof you require for validation?

Again and repeatedly, you display your nothing more than a poster reader and follower of those who actually have an opinion -- Where are your self-formulated conclusions and what are they based on?

simply best put by David Byers, executive director of the U.S. bishops' Committee on Science and Human Values from 1984 to 2003, has said that, “Denying that humans evolved from apes seems by this point a waste of time.”.

As stated, repeatedly, you cling to what others state, with no independent research being conducted on your part. You're not only a dedicated following puppet, by also incapable of even a small measure of independent thought.

[New England]

6000 years old?

what?


writing is older than that... in the beginning it was very simple, and much more like counting, but it's older than 6000 years old


you guys are something else,

[arraamis]

6000 years old?

what?


writing is older than that... in the beginning it was very simple, and much more like counting, but it's older than 6000 years old


you guys are something else,

You're exactly correct.

And it further proves, just how mentally dependent some guys are on a religious belief-system that is flawed and inaccurate.

[rorymac]

Now, let's deal with this other BS you're ignorantly stating. Evolution has always been subject of debate, by some of the most respected scientific minds. Your declaration of evolution beings a factual conclusion, demonstrates that your reverberating posters and billboards, without really completing any independent research which would put you in a better position to discuss the topic at hand.



So, if the Pope accepts a theory as possible, that is all the proof you require for validation?

Again and repeatedly, you display your nothing more than a poster reader and follower of those who actually have an opinion -- Where are your self-formulated conclusions and what are they based on?


As stated, repeatedly, you cling to what others state, with no independent research being conducted on your part. You're not only a dedicated following puppet, by also incapable of even a small measure of independent thought.

You genuinely don't believe in evolution? My God there are some bewildered people here

[arraamis]

You genuinely don't believe in evolution? My God there are some bewildered people here

I believe there are still critical unanswered questions relating to the theory of evolution. Most notably, the concept that genetic remnants inherent to the source transformed independently, without a catalyst. And since a catalyst is always required, why is it inactive when considering other species.

The Big Bang theory:
I believe there are still critical unanswered questions relating to the theory. Most notably, what stimulated the initial process and where the mass leading to objects originated. The biggest unexplained issue with the big bang theory is accounting for universal mass and interstellar dimensions -- Space has borders, objects within known space have mass -- What is supporting the mass of the known universe and if that mass is supported, then by what?

Creationists theory:
I believe there are still critical unanswered questions relating to the theory of creation. Most notably, the concept that all species originated and was brought into existence all at once -- taking this a step further, how did the originator create himself.