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Old 11-25-2010, 04:59 PM
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Hell no. Do you think the promoter or the commission wants a main event to fall through at the last minute because of a failed test? They much prefer the post fight test so everyone can get paid before the violator is dealt with.
The fights would still go ahead, We already have boxers who failed tests on a regular basis and their fights still went ahead while the commissions sweep it under the carpet, Just ask De la Hoya..
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:04 PM
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The fights would still go ahead, We already have boxers who failed tests on a regular basis and their fights still went ahead while the commissions sweep it under the carpet, Just ask De la Hoya..
Who specifically failed a pre fight PED test and was allowed to get in the ring?
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:17 PM
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Who specifically failed a pre fight PED test and was allowed to get in the ring?
Oscar!!! And they swept it under the covers..
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:30 PM
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Agreed, but do you think boxing really wants it to happen?
no, not at all. when tygart had a meeting with nsac, the commissioners were more pissed than interested talking about ost. maybe they got pissed that tygart was trying to expose their weak testing but doing it in a disrespectful manner.
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:30 PM
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Oscar!!! And they swept it under the covers..
Don't believe everything you read from Thomas Hauser.
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:02 PM
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Hell no. Do you think the promoter or the commission wants a main event to fall through at the last minute because of a failed test? They much prefer the post fight test so everyone can get paid before the violator is dealt with.
That might be part of it, but it's more so that the blood test is not only too invasive/dangerous, it is also useless. Promoters/commissions/handlers/fans don't want to see a megafight cancelled because a fighter developed a hematoma in his arm a few weeks before a fight or had their vein nicked. It's the same stance that all major sports players' associations take. The NFL for example:

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According to The Post, growth hormone is on the league's list of banned substances, but there is no reliable urine test for it. Upshaw said he would oppose blood testing of players.

"When you start talking about coming in to take a person's blood, that's different than taking someone's urine," Upshaw told the NFLPA. "I know personally I would have a problem with someone coming in and trying to take the players' blood. I'm not ready to make that leap."

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This week in Phoenix, NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw stated that the union would allow urine testing for HGH once it becomes available, but he balked at the idea of blood tests. Blood tests are closer to fruition than urine tests at this point.


His reasoning? "[W]hen th[e] test is developed, we really believe it should be a urine test. No one is interested in a blood test. We got a lot of big tough guys, but they don't even like to be pricked on the finger to give blood."
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"At this point, there's no reason to believe that blood-testing for NFL players will or should be implemented," said George Atallah, the union's assistant executive director of external affairs. "We should instead focus on preserving the drug-testing policy that we have in place."
That's the same stance the NBA, MLB (w/ the exception of the minor leagues) players' unions, and Combat Sports take. That's why USADA is helping to fund a urine-based HGH test which can detect the substance for up to 2 weeks, so once that's done, so will the blood testing issue.

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The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency has agreed to help fund a Virginia-based company's effort to gain acceptance in the anti-doping community for a urine test for human growth hormone, the entities will announce Friday.
Ceres Nanosciences, which licensed the screening process developed by two George Mason University professors, will receive $65,000 to conduct a six-month study of whether the test can be reliably repeated on dozens of samples. The George Mason researchers, Emanuel "Chip" Petricoin and Lance Liotta, will oversee the study, which is a crucial step because of the large scale on which the test would be used with athletes.

"We are cautiously optimistic," said Travis Tygart, CEO of USADA, the independent organization responsible for testing Olympic-bound American athletes. "They have developed an outstanding technology. And we're looking forward to helping them develop it further so it can have a practical use in anti-doping efforts."

Petricoin and Liotta's work recently was published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal.

HGH is one of the substances of choice for athletes seeking an edge. The synthetic version of a hormone produced naturally in the body can increase muscle mass, speed recovery from tough workouts and is often coupled with anabolic steroids.

There is a blood test for HGH that has been used at the last three Olympics, but it is expensive and no athletes have tested positive. In addition to questioning the test's effectiveness and cost, officials from Major League Baseball, the NFL and other pro leagues have been reluctant to adopt any kind of blood tests because of their invasiveness.

Ceres Nanosciences CEO Tom Dunlap said he has been fielding calls from leagues and anti-doping organizations since USA TODAY first reported on the test in July. Petricoin and Liotta, who are on Ceres' scientific advisory board, created a process that use nanoparticles objects about one-tenth the size of a red blood cell to latch on to HGH and make the hormone detectable by existing equipment.

"This is not so much about the money or getting science support as it is about prestige," Dunlap said. "Those guys have respect throughout the world."

The study will screen urine samples taken from volunteers using a gym next to George Mason's satellite campus in Manassas, Va., and from an anti-aging clinic, which will provide samples from adults using HGH.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olymp...sada-hgh_N.htm
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Fight didn't happen. Fanboys say it's because of the OST.

Floyd avoiding Pac worked! He needs to be congratulated!

*****s should be celebrating.

**** this fight.

Let's hope for Berto, winner of Alexander/Bradley.



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Old 11-25-2010, 08:40 PM
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That might be part of it, but it's more so that the blood test is not only too invasive/dangerous, it is also useless. Promoters/commissions/handlers/fans don't want to see a megafight cancelled because a fighter developed a hematoma in his arm a few weeks before a fight or had their vein nicked. It's the same stance that all major sports players' associations take. The NFL for example
That's the PLAYERS stance. Of course the players don't want to be found out they are taking HGH. There have been a ton of suspensions in the NFL for steroid using. HGH blood testing isn't useless and it isn't dangerous. Where are any issues where it has gone wrong? They've done it for the olympics and there hasn't been any issues. There wasn't any issues in Mosley-Mayweather too. It was Mosley who said he actually preferred blood testing than urine testing because it was easier.
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