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Old 04-27-2010, 05:30 PM
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It is fair, its why hindsight is such a good thing.


Judah and Baldomir were never ELITE welterweights, they were some of the top WW at the time but could never be considered elite.
Undisputed Welterweight champion isn't considered elite?

What kind of rock are you smoking.
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:31 PM
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Agreed, Unless the word "elite" is now so low then i wouldnt even put anyone up has an elite WW in the last 5 years...By the time Mayweather got to WW in 2005/2006 the only fighters around WW were people like Judah,Margarito..Spinks and Mosley were dancing with rebuilding and fighting at 154ish.

I cant even name one elite fighter in around WW in that time because none of them had done anything exceptional to be class as Elite at 147.
Except unify the division
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:45 PM
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Baldomir and Judah werent elite to me in 2006, Margarito and cotto are not elite in 2006, I would how ever call Margarito and cotto elite WW in 2008/2009.
margarito was a top 3 welterweight from 2001 to 2009 and top 1 for many of those years. it's not his fault mayorga, spinks, judah, baldomir and mayweather refused to fight him. he wanted those fights badly but they they never gave him the chance to become elite in the public eye even though he was elite from a boxing stand point. it was a sad injustice and similar to what happened to paul williams when he was at welterweight. they thought they were too dangerous so pretended they weren't there. they hid behind the "they aren't popular enough" bull**** even though they both were on hbo, showtime, and espn many times. it's not like they were an journeyman from argentina......ohhh
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Undisputed Welterweight champion isn't considered elite?

What kind of rock are you smoking.
he wasn't undisputed, he was the lineal champion, big difference
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Except unify the division
remind me again which one beat margarito?
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I disagree. After losing to Baldomir Judah fell to Clottey status. A top fighter for sure, but not elite.
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you do realize morales was coming of a loss all three times pac fought him?

You do realize mab was coming of a loss the the second time pac fought him?

Those are the men pac built his legacy off of. I guess that legacy is in shambles.
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berto-baldomir make it happen people. 2 elites going at it for the "official" wbc belt of corruption
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