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Old 02-16-2010, 02:04 PM
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Lightbulb The truth behind Floyd Mayweather vs Juan Manuel Marquez

The thruth is that this was one of the the greatest marketing ploys in boxing history. The fight was a tune-up fight. Though if you look closer there's so much to it. Basically Mayweather killed 4 birds with one stone.


1. Mayweather evens the score with Pacquiao.

-Pacquiao was coming off the De La Hoya fight. De La Hoya gave Mayweather alot of problems and Pacquiao made quick work of him. Mayweather needed to get even by dominating the guy who many people believe beat Pacquiao. Enter Juan Manuel Marquez.

2. Maywether needed a tune-up

-Mayweather was coming off a two year layoff and needed a winnable fight to shake off ring rust. TBH I really don't think Marquez thought he could beat Mayweather and just wanted the fight for a payday.

3. Mayweather needed to move up the ranks quickly

-As the former p4p champion (according to RING) Mayweather needed to climb up the rankings quickly to show the world he was still the man. It just so happened that the guy who gave the current p4p king all he could hadle was ranked number 2. Beating the number 2 + Being the former number #1 and never being defeated for that spot automatically put Mayweather at #2.

4. Mayweather needed to prove his drawing power

-This is the most surprising of all. With slow ticket sales and people saying nobody wanted to see this fight, Mayweather managed to make his way into over 1 million homes! Thus proving he was still an attraction and still had power at the negotiation table

All in all Marquez was the perfect opponent for his comeback fight

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Martin Luther Mayweather deserves his props....its ok to fight FWs if you're coming off a 2 year layoff
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:12 PM
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Sloppy Joes

Ingredients

* 1 Tbsp olive oil
* 1/2 cup minced carrots (can sub chopped bell pepper)
* 1 cup chopped onion (about 1 medium onion)
* 1/2 cup chopped celery
* 2 cloves garlic, minced
* Salt
* 1 1/4 lb ground beef
* 1/2 cup ketchup
* 2 cups tomato sauce (or 1 15-ounce can whole tomatoes, puréed)
* 1 Tbsp Worcestershire sauce
* 1 Tbsp red wine vinegar
* 2 Tbsp brown sugar
* Pinch ground cloves
* 1/2 teaspoon dried thyme
* Pinch cayenne pepper
* 2 turns of freshly ground black pepper
* 4 hamburger buns

Method

1 Heat olive oil in a large sauté pan on medium high heat. Add the carrots and sauté for 5 minutes. (If you are using bell pepper instead of carrots, add those at the same time as the onions.) Add the chopped onion and celery. Cook, stirring occasionally until onions are translucent, about 5 more minutes. Add the minced garlic and cook for 30 more seconds. Remove from heat. Remove vegetables from the pan to a medium sized bowl, set aside.

2 Using the same pan (or you can cook the meat at the same time as the vegetables in a separate pan to save time), generously salt the bottom of the pan (about 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon). Heat the pan on high. Crumble the ground beef into the pan. You will likely need to do this in two batches, otherwise you will crowd the pan and the beef won't easily brown. Do not stir the ground beef, just let it cook until it is well browned on one side. Then flip the pieces over and brown the second side. Use a slotted spoon to remove the ground beef from the pan (can add to the set-aside vegetables), salt the pan again and repeat with the rest of the ground beef.

If you are using extra lean beef, you will likely not have any excess fat in the pan. If you are using 16% or higher, you may have excess fat. Strain off all but 1 tablespoon of the fat.

3 Return the cooked ground beef and vegetables to the pan. Add the ketchup, tomato sauce, Worcestershire sauce, vinegar and brown sugar to the pan. Stir to mix well. Add ground cloves, thyme, and cayenne pepper. Lower the heat to medium low and let simmer for 10 minutes. Adjust seasonings to taste.

Serve with toasted hamburger buns. Serves 4.
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The thruth is that this was one of the the greatest marketing ploys in boxing history. The fight was a tune-up fight. Though if you look closer there's so much to it. Basically Mayweather killed 4 birds with one stone.


1. Mayweather evens the score with Pacquiao.

-Pacquiao was coming off the De La Hoya fight. De La Hoya gave Mayweather alot of problems and Pacquiao made quick work of him. Mayweather needed to get even by dominating the guy who many people believe beat Pacquiao. Enter Juan Manuel Marquez.

2. Maywether needed a tune-up

-Mayweather was coming off a two year layoff and needed a winnable fight to shake off ring rust. TBH I really don't think Marquez thought he could beat Mayweather and just wanted the fight for a payday.

3. Mayweather needed to move up the ranks quickly

-As the former p4p champion (according to RING) Mayweather needed to climb up the rankings quickly to show the world he was still the man. It just so happened that the guy who gave the current p4p king all he could hadle was ranked number 2. Beating the number 2 + Being the former number #1 and never being defeated for that spot automatically put Mayweather at #2.

4. Mayweather needed to prove his drawing power

-This is the most surprising of all. With slow ticket sales and people saying nobody wanted to see this fight, Mayweather managed to make his way into over 1 million homes! Thus proving he was still an attraction and still had power at the negotiation table

All in all Marquez was the perfect opponent for his comeback fight

TBH you should not BH. lie a bit, maybe it could be the truth in the end of a day.
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Martin Luther Mayweather deserves his props....its ok to fight FWs if you're coming off a 2 year layoff
No more than it's okay to fight middleweights at WW. But both fights served their purpose
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The thread was made in response to the Marquez/Mayweather threads
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sorry, but which fight do u mean?
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Sloppy Joes

Ingredients

* 1 Tbsp olive oil
* 1/2 cup minced carrots (can sub chopped bell pepper)
* 1 cup chopped onion (about 1 medium onion)
* 1/2 cup chopped celery
* 2 cloves garlic, minced
* Salt
* 1 1/4 lb ground beef
* 1/2 cup ketchup
* 2 cups tomato sauce (or 1 15-ounce can whole tomatoes, puréed)
* 1 Tbsp Worcestershire sauce
* 1 Tbsp red wine vinegar
* 2 Tbsp brown sugar
* Pinch ground cloves
* 1/2 teaspoon dried thyme
* Pinch cayenne pepper
* 2 turns of freshly ground black pepper
* 4 hamburger buns

Method

1 Heat olive oil in a large sauté pan on medium high heat. Add the carrots and sauté for 5 minutes. (If you are using bell pepper instead of carrots, add those at the same time as the onions.) Add the chopped onion and celery. Cook, stirring occasionally until onions are translucent, about 5 more minutes. Add the minced garlic and cook for 30 more seconds. Remove from heat. Remove vegetables from the pan to a medium sized bowl, set aside.

2 Using the same pan (or you can cook the meat at the same time as the vegetables in a separate pan to save time), generously salt the bottom of the pan (about 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon). Heat the pan on high. Crumble the ground beef into the pan. You will likely need to do this in two batches, otherwise you will crowd the pan and the beef won't easily brown. Do not stir the ground beef, just let it cook until it is well browned on one side. Then flip the pieces over and brown the second side. Use a slotted spoon to remove the ground beef from the pan (can add to the set-aside vegetables), salt the pan again and repeat with the rest of the ground beef.

If you are using extra lean beef, you will likely not have any excess fat in the pan. If you are using 16% or higher, you may have excess fat. Strain off all but 1 tablespoon of the fat.

3 Return the cooked ground beef and vegetables to the pan. Add the ketchup, tomato sauce, Worcestershire sauce, vinegar and brown sugar to the pan. Stir to mix well. Add ground cloves, thyme, and cayenne pepper. Lower the heat to medium low and let simmer for 10 minutes. Adjust seasonings to taste.

Serve with toasted hamburger buns. Serves 4.
sounds delish mate

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