Bruce Lee vs Ali

[leff]

Originally Posted by ???

To all those people who say Bruce Lee is just an actor, he's not.

allright, just prove he did fight than

[leestudent]

alright, just prove he did fight than

as i said in my previous post, read his wikipedia article:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_history_of_Bruce_Lee

this wikipedia article is credible but incomplete, there are many more documented street fights and other fights against black belts from different martial arts, if you want to know more buy those books:

"Bruce Lee: Fighting Spirit" by Bruce Thomas
"Unsettled Matters: The Life & Death of Bruce Lee" by Tom Bleecker.

there are tons of documentaries, testimonials and videos, you just have to look for them on youtube, amazon and ebay (if you want the original versions) , here is a short video:

youtube.com/watch?v=wGxTBHd2gvc

peace.

[RelliK]

1955 William Cheung Hong Kong Exhibition
1957 Wong Shun-Leung Hong Kong Exhibition
1958 Pu Chang Hong Kong KO 2 Referee: Wong Shun-Leung
1958 Yang Huang Hong Kong KO 1 Amateur Boxing Tournament
1958 Lieh Lo Hong Kong KO 1 Amateur Boxing Tournament
1958 Shen Yuen Hong Kong KO 1 Amateur Boxing Tournament-Semi Finals
1958 Gary Elms Hong Kong KO 3 Amateur Boxing Tournament-Finals
1960 (unknown) Seattle, Washington KO 1 Lee scored a knockout with a backfist/Street Fight
1960 (unknown) Seattle, Washington KO 1 Street Fight
1962 (?) Uechi Seattle, Washington KO 1 Referee: Jesse Glover
1963 (unknown) Hong Kong KO
1964 Wong Jack Man Oakland, California Controversial Result of this fight is disputed. Some sources claim the fight ended in a draw or a win for Lee.
1973 (Kung fu fighter) Hong Kong KO The KO came 30 seconds into the fight

[GroundSt.Pound]

If we are talking about an actual NHB, straight up fight, Bruce Lee takes it easy.

[hugh grant]

Just read in a magazine today that Ali said he really respected Bruces abilities and skills, and he didnt know if he could have beaten Bruce Lee in the ring.

[SilverSamurai]

Originally Posted by RelliK

1955 William Cheung Hong Kong Exhibition
1957 Wong Shun-Leung Hong Kong Exhibition
1958 Pu Chang Hong Kong KO 2 Referee: Wong Shun-Leung
1958 Yang Huang Hong Kong KO 1 Amateur Boxing Tournament
1958 Lieh Lo Hong Kong KO 1 Amateur Boxing Tournament
1958 Shen Yuen Hong Kong KO 1 Amateur Boxing Tournament-Semi Finals
1958 Gary Elms Hong Kong KO 3 Amateur Boxing Tournament-Finals
1960 (unknown) Seattle, Washington KO 1 Lee scored a knockout with a backfist/Street Fight
1960 (unknown) Seattle, Washington KO 1 Street Fight
1962 (?) Uechi Seattle, Washington KO 1 Referee: Jesse Glover
1963 (unknown) Hong Kong KO
1964 Wong Jack Man Oakland, California Controversial Result of this fight is disputed. Some sources claim the fight ended in a draw or a win for Lee.
1973 (Kung fu fighter) Hong Kong KO The KO came 30 seconds into the fight

I think that record at best is dubious. Wong Shun-Leung for example was his Wing Chun teacher, William Cheung was an advanced student so its unlikely that him and Bruce would of fought, When George Tan interviewed Wong Shun-Leung, he was told that the only fight he saw Bruce in was friendly sparring match with a student from a rival school.
That Boxing record is dubious as well why has there been no photos, medals, interviews with past opponents or any documentation to prove its existence.

[SilverSamurai]

Originally Posted by leestudent

as i said in my previous post, read his wikipedia article:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_history_of_Bruce_Lee

this wikipedia article is credible but incomplete, there are many more documented street fights and other fights against black belts from different martial arts, if you want to know more buy those books:

"Bruce Lee: Fighting Spirit" by Bruce Thomas
"Unsettled Matters: The Life & Death of Bruce Lee" by Tom Bleecker.

there are tons of documentaries, testimonials and videos, you just have to look for them on youtube, amazon and ebay (if you want the original versions) , here is a short video:

youtube.com/watch?v=wGxTBHd2gvc
peace.

Its hard to judge how good a fighter is from his grade, black belt etc, it is much more reliable to see some actual footage of him fighting. Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source of information, some of those Bruce Lee feats are physically impossible. I see you have quoted Unsettled matters, whats your view on the steroids accusations?

[SilverSamurai]

Originally Posted by hugh grant

Just read in a magazine today that Ali said he really respected Bruces abilities and skills, and he didnt know if he could have beaten Bruce Lee in the ring.

Bruce Lee's thoughts on a possible fight with ali,see last paragraph on page 2:
http://www.bruceleedivinewind.com/ar...ringforali.zip

[RelliK]

Originally Posted by SilverSamurai

I think that record at best is dubious. Wong Shun-Leung for example was his Wing Chun teacher, William Cheung was an advanced student so its unlikely that him and Bruce would of fought, When George Tan interviewed Wong Shun-Leung, he was told that the only fight he saw Bruce in was friendly sparring match with a student from a rival school.
That Boxing record is dubious as well why has there been no photos, medals, interviews with past opponents or any documentation to prove its existence.

The first two are listed as exhibition so no telling what actually took place probably just sparring of demos.

His fight with Wong Jack Man is well known

[SilverSamurai]

[quote=RelliK;6722671]The first two are listed as exhibition so no telling what actually took place probably just sparring of demos.
[quote]

Hopefully that Ahna Capri Bruce Lee sparring footage, will be released some day. It would then be much easier to judge how good Lee really was instead of relying on conflicting stories.