GSP is overrated, Silva is much better

[Sandwich]

Originally Posted by Box"K"ing

Although ts reason is retarded I have to agree that silva is better and has more heart and balls.



Gsp is to damn scared to fight someone so he has to take people down. But silva stands up and fights like a warrior. Not saying there is anything wrong with that but why the **** is gsp considerd a karate guy when he takes people down!!! Can someone tell me!!!



Basicly it has nothing to do with race if gsp was black and silva was white I would still go for silva.


With the exception of judo karo parisyan baby!!! Grapplers arent as tough as strikers in general speaking.

I've really never understood this reasoning. How is striking more manly than grappling? How is grappling not fighting?

GSP is a mixed martial artist. He's just as much of a striker as he is a grappler. In fact, he's easily one of the best strikers at welterweight.

It's only been 3 fights since GSP kept the fight standing against Fitch for five whole rounds and put on a standup clinic with multiple knockdowns. He made Fitch's face look like paper mache.

Everyone thought that there was no way that GSP would even think of standing against BJ Penn (many consider him to be the best boxer in the UFC). GSP spends most of the first round striking, as well as big chunks of the following rounds. Not only does he hold his own, he out-strikes BJ Penn.

[Still Pimpin]

I won't touch the race issue cuz it is what it is but Silva does getting hated on for dumb shit.
People criticize Silva for the Lutter fight more than they criticize GSP for the Serra fight...

You know somethings not right about that.

[Box"K"ing]

Originally Posted by Sandwich

I've really never understood this reasoning. How is striking more manly than grappling? How is grappling not fighting?

GSP is a mixed martial artist. He's just as much of a striker as he is a grappler. In fact, he's easily one of the best strikers at welterweight.

It's only been 3 fights since GSP kept the fight standing against Fitch for five whole rounds and put on a standup clinic with multiple knockdowns. He made Fitch's face look like paper mache.

Everyone thought that there was no way that GSP would even think of standing against BJ Penn (many consider him to be the best boxer in the UFC). GSP spends most of the first round striking, as well as big chunks of the following rounds. Not only does he hold his own, he out-strikes BJ Penn.

Well the reason its manly is because its more painful and more stressful thing to do if you go to the right boxing/muay thai gym. I mean I have got ground and pounded before but its not that bad cause the ground is kinda protecting you so the gravity is keeping you safe.

BUT!!!!

In striking your standing one second and next second your KTFO and the nature of it self is very very stressful since its spontaneous and makes it a bit tougher. I don't know man to be honest I am doing a bad job defending striking its one of those things that if you practice grappling and LEGIT striking ( no cardio/non-contact crap) you can see where I am coming from maybe.


But as far as gsp goes gsp is a STUD striker he really is but I HATE when he goes for wrestling cause its kinda like tease I want to see him strike with people since his got great footwork and kickboxing and an awesome switch kick his striking clinic was amazing against Shawn shark. Watch his fight with sherk he can outstriker freaking everybody but he keeps going for wrestling which kinda is lame

[Sandwich]

Originally Posted by Box"K"ing

Well the reason its manly is because its more painful and more stressful thing to do if you go to the right boxing/muay thai gym. I mean I have got ground and pounded before but its not that bad cause the ground is kinda protecting you so the gravity is keeping you safe.

BUT!!!!

In striking your standing one second and next second your KTFO and the nature of it self is very very stressful since its spontaneous and makes it a bit tougher. I don't know man to be honest I am doing a bad job defending striking its one of those things that if you practice grappling and LEGIT striking ( no cardio/non-contact crap) you can see where I am coming from maybe.


But as far as gsp goes gsp is a STUD striker he really is but I HATE when he goes for wrestling cause its kinda like tease I want to see him strike with people since his got great footwork and kickboxing and an awesome switch kick his striking clinic was amazing against Shawn shark. Watch his fight with sherk he can outstriker freaking everybody but he keeps going for wrestling which kinda is lame

I don't know, if you don't think that grappling is painful, then you've never had someone crank an armbar on you. Or never been caught in a heel hook or knee bar. When you're caught in an achilles leg lock you can literally feel the tissue in your leg tearing.

You rarely see someone writhing on the ground in pain from a strike (sometimes you do), but I've seen guys writhing in pain after armbars, kimura's, heel hooks, knee bars, etc.

Look at Randleman vs Shogun. Shogun catches him in a knee bar and Randleman is literally screaming. Haven't seen many guys screaming while they're being punched.

Grappling martial arts were the very first arts to be invented. I don't think the "grappling is gay, striking is for men" mentality really popped up until boxing started becoming popular.

[Box"K"ing]

Originally Posted by Sandwich

I don't know, if you don't think that grappling is painful, then you've never had someone crank an armbar on you. Or never been caught in a heel hook or knee bar. When you're caught in an achilles leg lock you can literally feel the tissue in your leg tearing.

You rarely see someone writhing on the ground in pain from a strike (sometimes you do), but I've seen guys writhing in pain after armbars, kimura's, heel hooks, knee bars, etc.

Look at Randleman vs Shogun. Shogun catches him in a knee bar and Randleman is literally screaming. Haven't seen many guys screaming while they're being punched.

Grappling martial arts were the very first arts to be invented. I don't think the "grappling is gay, striking is for men" mentality really popped up until boxing started becoming popular.

You have been misunderstood sir


What I meant wasn't grappling as whole I meant the wrestling aspect. Mind you despite me being a boxing/striking practitioner myself my fav guy in all of combat sports is Karo Parisyan and keep in mind that wrestling is different with submission fighting I have done some judo and the newaza part can be painful and I do agree with the submission holds but gsp isn't really a submission fighter he is a passive gnp fighter that grinds you out thats the only problem I have but then again to me its not that big of a deal cause... Hey gsp is got to get paid to and retain his health and if wrestling and positioning is the way to go for him then more props to him but nonetheless I am not crazy about it.



Oh and thanks for not responding with anger and hate like some mma websites that I don't go to cough sherdog cough anymore.

So who is your fav btw

[Left2theliver]

Originally Posted by Box"K"ing

You have been misunderstood sir


What I meant wasn't grappling as whole I meant the wrestling aspect. Mind you despite me being a boxing/striking practitioner myself my fav guy in all of combat sports is Karo Parisyan and keep in mind that wrestling is different with submission fighting I have done some judo and the newaza part can be painful and I do agree with the submission holds but gsp isn't really a submission fighter he is a passive gnp fighter that grinds you out thats the only problem I have but then again to me its not that big of a deal cause... Hey gsp is got to get paid to and retain his health and if wrestling and positioning is the way to go for him then more props to him but nonetheless I am not crazy about it.



Oh and thanks for not responding with anger and hate like some mma websites that I don't go to cough sherdog cough anymore.

So who is your fav btw

Well, as an experienced wrestler I'd have to say that Wrestling in fact does hurt haha. Pain is key in wrestling, my coach use to say "wrestle smart, don't wrestle hard. Allow your opponent to put themselves into the position for you." There's a lot of little things like rubbing your forearm againt someoe's face or twisting their body in weird painful positions to force your opponent to move around in order for you to get the better position and get the pin. Even the with the takedowns a lot of little things like that play a part, when you shoot for a double i wals always taught to think of punching or shoving my shoulder into their lower abs to push em back so i can move them around, of if i shoot for a single i headbutt their side. Little things like that.

[Box"K"ing]

Originally Posted by Left2theliver

Well, as an experienced wrestler I'd have to say that Wrestling in fact does hurt haha. Pain is key in wrestling, my coach use to say "wrestle smart, don't wrestle hard. Allow your opponent to put themselves into the position for you." There's a lot of little things like rubbing your forearm againt someoe's face or twisting their body in weird painful positions to force your opponent to move around in order for you to get the better position and get the pin. Even the with the takedowns a lot of little things like that play a part, when you shoot for a double i wals always taught to think of punching or shoving my shoulder into their lower abs to push em back so i can move them around, of if i shoot for a single i headbutt their side. Little things like that.

I always wondered do wrestlers lead with the right side???? if your right handed???

Because I realize quit a bit of wrestlers are southpaws does that make the shoot easier???