If JMM beats mayweather who will you have as P4P number one?

[MARKBNLV]

Only the blind scored what for Pac? The JMM fights? That's your opinion, the first fight JMM was definitely the better fighter but three first round knockdowns tend to make it hard to come back, and if not for a scoring error Pac would have won that fight. And the second fight I saw it either 115-112 or 114-113 every time I have seen it for Pac.

three first down knockdowns compaired to 11 rds of domination by jmm,or the 2nd fight which i had scored 116-112 for jmm,and i am a fan of neither i was a barrera fan. plus clottey had that fool hurt he just could not pull the trigger in the clutch,and i had him winning 115-113.

[ßringer]

It would depend on the Pacquiao-Cotto fight. If Pac lost, Marquez is no question P4P 1. If JMM beats Floyd impressively and Pac wins controversially, he can possibly be number 1. Otherwise Pac stays until a hopeful third fight.

And enough about the Diaz and Casamoyer fights, yes they were impressive but does anyone not believe Manny would have done the same? Especially against a pressure fighter that's easy to hit like Juan Diaz.

No doubt Manny could handle Casamayor and Diaz.

But don't you think by the same token, that Marquez could handle David Diaz, Ricky and a weightdrained De La Hoya?

[DiLLiNGER]

well if williams beats pavlik doesn't he deserve to be p4p?

[MOTHER DUCKER]

No doubt Manny could handle Casamayor and Diaz.

But don't you think by the same token, that Marquez could handle David Diaz, Ricky and a weightdrained De La Hoya?

He could "handle" the last 2 but not by dominant tko/ko's, i think Hatton/Marquez would have been a great fight tho (pre floyd Hatton)

[shogunn]

No doubt Manny could handle Casamayor and Diaz.

But don't you think by the same token, that Marquez could handle David Diaz, Ricky and a weightdrained De La Hoya?

No, and no way not in the same manner. For sure Manny wouldnt have buckled like JMM against casamayor and J Diaz

[ßringer]

He could "handle" the last 2 but not by dominant tko/ko's, i think Hatton/Marquez would have been a great fight tho (pre floyd Hatton)

It doesn't matter how he would win ; the fact that he'd beat them alone speaks volumes about his talent as a fighter.

No, and no way not in the same manner. For sure Manny wouldnt have buckled like JMM against casamayor and J Diaz

Really?

Marquez couldn't handle 2 very sloppy 1 dimensional guys like Hatton and David Diaz? And he couldn't hang with a weight drained Oscar?

And what does him getting wobbled have anything to do with this?

He stayed on his feet and recovered excellently like he always does and exchanged fire.

And in the end he knocked them both out.

[shogunn]

It doesn't matter how he would win ; the fact that he'd beat them alone speaks volumes about his talent as a fighter.



Really?

Marquez couldn't handle 2 very sloppy 1 dimensional guys like Hatton and David Diaz? And he couldn't hang with a weight drained Oscar?

And what does him getting wobbled have anything to do with this?

He stayed on his feet and recovered excellently like he always does and exchanged fire.

And in the end he knocked them both out.

Manny did the same to D Diaz and Hatton, in a much more dominating fashion. No **** way does he take out Hatton and Diaz in teh same way, it's not his style. He also completely dominated ODLH.

And what does getting hobbled have to do with anything? It shows the vulnerability of a boxer. JMM made the fights more exciting when he came back in his fights, but Manny won much more convincingly. When was the last time Manny buckled, not in his recent fights against bigger fighters.


Marquez is a strong counter puncher and would not have attacked teh same as Manny did to ODLH. Manny was sneaking in punches between ODLH's gaurd and rolling out as he does. That isnt Marquez' style, as he wouldve just waited ODLH to come to him and defend with counter punches. Manny also took away Oscars left hook by turning him and rolling out. Marquez Likes to sit in and counter which would leave him susceptible to Oscars hook and jab. We've seen JMM buckle and get KD'd when he plays he gets caught countering. If JMM has a good night the match would likely end in a decision.

JMM isnt Manny so stop pretending that he is.

[Primal Instinx]

Too Simple

To be the man you have to beat the man, and the man right now is Manny Pacquiao, so if Manny wins he is the man and if Cotto beats Pacquiao he is the man, Doesn't matter what happens in the Floyd fight because neither are #1 right now. What is the issue? None point blank and simple.

[Klitschko2010]

I don't think Marquez is a gentic freak like Manny who looks incredible strong and a full blown 140 lb fighter when a few years ago he was warring at featherweight... Still, I rate JMM's 2 KO wins equal to Manny's 3KO wins as I believe he beat better fighters but Manny just didn't even loose a round and blitzed them all.

If JMM wins against Mayweather he will go down as one of the greatest. Let's face it - Mayweather is a contradictory, racist, crap spewing idiot but he's a ****ing amazing boxer.

[ßringer]

Manny did the same to D Diaz and Hatton, in a much more dominating fashion. No **** way does he take out Hatton and Diaz in teh same way, it's not his style. He also completely dominated ODLH.

And what does getting hobbled have to do with anything? It shows the vulnerability of a boxer. JMM made the fights more exciting when he came back in his fights, but Manny won much more convincingly. When was the last time Manny buckled, not in his recent fights against bigger fighters.


Marquez is a strong counter puncher and would not have attacked teh same as Manny did to ODLH. Manny was sneaking in punches between ODLH's gaurd and rolling out as he does. That isnt Marquez' style, as he wouldve just waited ODLH to come to him and defend with counter punches. Manny also took away Oscars left hook by turning him and rolling out. Marquez Likes to sit in and counter which would leave him susceptible to Oscars hook and jab. We've seen JMM buckle and get KD'd when he plays he gets caught countering. If JMM has a good night the match would likely end in a decision.

JMM isnt Manny so stop pretending that he is.

I stopped reading when you said that Marquez can't beat David Diaz ; Diaz was the weakest title holder at 135 who shouldn't even have had a title, considering the way the mummified remains of Erik Morales beat his ass before walking off into retirement.