I think we were robbed !?!

[urdaddyinAZ]

Does anyone else feel like we may have been robbed of a potential fight of the year on Saturday night?

If that fight goes another 4-6 rounds and has half the drama it had in the first 4 rounds, I think we would be hard pressed to see a better fight this year. I know we are all expecting a shootout between Pac and Moraled, but that fight on Saturday had everything I love about boxing.....except a ****ty biased ref.

Agree or disagree?

[m00ks]

Disagree. Although the stoppage WAS early, Corely taken a knee is proof that he couldn't take the punches. And it wouldn't have been over sooner or later. Corely didn't have the same pop. Not a fight of the year. Just wait for March 19.

[urdaddyinAZ]

The punch that really had Chop hurt was a body shot, nothing to the head. If Chop survives round 4 and gets his wind back, I think the fight continues in the same slugfest fashion.....although I agree the extra weight and Cotto's power would end up putting an end tot he fight around the tenth or so.


Another thing that's pissing me off is how one guy can drop water weight, then come in the ring with a huge size advantage. Something needs to be done about this in my opinion. Not just because of this fight either, I like Cotto and expect big things from him. But he shouldn't gain an instant advantage just because a guy like Chop is fighting much closer to his natural weight. I know it's been this way in boxing for years, but to me it's getting a little ridiculous.

[Slipx]

Disagree. Although the stoppage WAS early, Corely taken a knee is proof that he couldn't take the punches. And it wouldn't have been over sooner or later. Corely didn't have the same pop. Not a fight of the year. Just wait for March 19.

m00ks you arent serious are you? holy **** I thought you were smarter than that

I suggest you watch that fight again before making comments on the board about it...otherwise you make yourself look like you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.....if you think he took a knee because of landed punches then you need to watch the fight again. As for Corely not having the same pop, you think Cotto would be as strong after the combos he was throwing? Cotto was in trouble, he had his hands full and would not have that kind of intensity through round 12, and the ref knew this...

Ya need to understand, Corely has never been stopped, and took Cotto's best shots to the head without being wobbled...he wasn't going down, don't make silly assumptions.

[m00ks]

m00ks you arent serious are you? holy **** I thought you were smarter than that

I suggest you watch that fight again before making comments on the board about it...otherwise you make yourself look like you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.....if you think he took a knee because of landed punches then you need to watch the fight again. As for Corely not having the same pop, you think Cotto would be as strong after the combos he was throwing? Cotto was in trouble, he had his hands full and would not have that kind of intensity through round 12, and the ref knew this...

lol Slipx I saw the fight 4 times already chillz for a bit lemme explain my view.

No punches landed when he took a knee. The last punch being a brush to the elbow. Coreley did well to dodge, but why did he take a knee? Because he felt Cotto's power, and was already downed by a body shot. I stand by my statement that he CANNOT take Cotto's power, otherwise, he would have NEVER gone down. He would have blocked, slipped, countered move the **** out of teh way but GO DOWN? That means he DID NOT WANT TO GET HIT.

When Cotto started stalking Chop Chop he was getting caught less and less cleanly as when he was coming in face first. If I read your post correctly you agree that Chop Chop was being broken down by the body shot but you say that Cotto couln't have kept that pressure for 12 rounds. This is the thing, Cotto doesn't need 12 rounds to hurt Corely. Chop was already slowed down just enough for Cotto to unload.

I will say this

There is NO WAY Corely would have survived SEVEN more rounds with a man who outpowers him exponentially.

This is my view, this what I saw, you don't have to like it, you don't have to agree but saying I don't kno what I'm talking about is pretty ignorant seing this is a forum with different views. We have cool discussions Slipx lets not make it ugly...

[Slipx]

lol Slipx I saw the fight 4 times already chillz for a bit lemme explain my view.

No punches landed when he took a knee. The last punch being a brush to the elbow. Coreley did well to dodge, but why did he take a knee? Because he felt Cotto's power, and was already downed by a body shot. I stand by my statement that he CANNOT take Cotto's power, otherwise, he would have NEVER gone down. He would have blocked, slipped, countered move the **** out of teh way but GO DOWN? That means he DID NOT WANT TO GET HIT.

When Cotto started stalking Chop Chop he was getting caught less and less cleanly as when he was coming in face first. If I read your post correctly you agree that Chop Chop was being broken down by the body shot but you say that Cotto couln't have kept that pressure for 12 rounds. This is the thing, Cotto doesn't need 12 rounds to hurt Corely. Chop was already slowed down just enough for Cotto to unload.

I will say this

There is NO WAY Corely would have survived SEVEN more rounds with a man who outpowers him exponentially.

This is my view, this what I saw, you don't have to like it, you don't have to agree but saying I don't kno what I'm talking about is pretty ignorant seing this is a forum with different views. We have cool discussions Slipx lets not make it ugly...

corely's glove never touched the canvas from a punch in that fight, the first 'KD' was a head push,the 2nd 'kd' was corely squatting down holding the ropes, and the reason he took the third knee had nothing to do with Cottos power..look at his left knee after he dodges cottos two punches, it's like three inches from the canvas...he didnt want to eat a left hand in an unguarded position so he took a knee..veteran tactic..

and if corely can go 12 rounds with zab judah, a much harder puncher, what makes you think cottos punches would stop him?

and I agree lets keep it clean I think you are a pretty cool person, thats why I was shocked to read the first post I replied to

[urdaddyinAZ]

Corley did what a seasoned veteran is taught to do, take a knee if you need to gather yourself. Corley was hurt but it was by a BODYSHOT....meaning he waas trying to gather his wind. Taking the knee was the right thing to do. In my opinion, Cotto was more severely hurt in the 3rd round than Corley was in the 4th.

Also, I heard people talking about how Corley shoulda kept headhunting when he had Cotto hurt...I disagree. Cotto has covering his chin very well at that time and Chop had very clean shots to the body. If Chop had the heavy hands of Gatti or Tszyu those body shots woulda ended the fight. Corley knew in order to win that fight he had to break Cotto down over a long period of time. I commend Chop for staying composed and not trying to throw 100 haymakers and punching himslef out. Take what the other guy gives you. So disappointed in the early stoppage, I really thought the fight was a dandy up until then.

[Slipx]

Corley did what a seasoned veteran is taught to do, take a knee if you need to gather yourself. Corley was hurt but it was by a BODYSHOT....meaning he waas trying to gather his wind. Taking the knee was the right thing to do. In my opinion, Cotto was more severely hurt in the 3rd round than Corley was in the 4th.

Also, I heard people talking about how Corley shoulda kept headhunting when he had Cotto hurt...I disagree. Cotto has covering his chin very well at that time and Chop had very clean shots to the body. If Chop had the heavy hands of Gatti or Tszyu those body shots woulda ended the fight. Corley knew in order to win that fight he had to break Cotto down over a long period of time. I commend Chop for staying composed and not trying to throw 100 haymakers and punching himslef out. Take what the other guy gives you. So disappointed in the early stoppage, I really thought the fight was a dandy up until then.

Corely is going to end up like a Glen Johnson style.

****ty record because of controversial horse****, but really has the potential to be a great fighter (corely's counterpunching skill is over the top, he should fight like b-hop)



I gotta admit though what was the ref doing, when he stopped that fight he put his arm on Corely's shoulder and walked him to his corner like a guy walking a woman out of a fancy restaurant,like he was saving him from death and he wasn't even in any trouble, I was like..'hahahhahaha what the **** is that ref smoking,' corely pushed him off finally, but they walked together for a few seconds,funny stuff

[Slipx]

corely should have just faked being KO'd when cotto hit him after the bell. lol,santana -jones style.

man those puerto ricans would have ripped team corely new *******s if he did that..or at least peppered them with full coronas

[m00ks]

corely's glove never touched the canvas from a punch in that fight, the first 'KD' was a head push,the 2nd 'kd' was corely squatting down holding the ropes, and the reason he took the third knee had nothing to do with Cottos power..look at his left knee after he dodges cottos two punches, it's like three inches from the canvas...he didnt want to eat a left hand in an unguarded position so he took a knee..veteran tactic..

and if corely can go 12 rounds with zab judah, a much harder puncher, what makes you think cottos punches would stop him?

and I agree lets keep it clean I think you are a pretty cool person, thats why I was shocked to read the first post I replied to

Do you know why he squat down?!?!? BODY SHOT 45 seconds left in the fifth. You have the fight? Watch that left hook to the body. THAT'S WHY HE SQUAT DOWN.

Corely would have gotten caught with another big shot, body or head he would have gone down. I don't care if he's never been knocked out, he was in there with a power puncher who outweighed him by 17 pounds.

Listen I really give props to Corely. He held his ground, fought a very smart fight even rocking Cotto. he was hitting the hometown kid repeatedly and CLEAN. But the power disparity was pretty big and when Cotto started to close in the distance, you can tell Corely was getting hurt.