Margarito Warns Cotto To Keep His Mouth Shut

[PavlikRules]

So first Cotto got his nose busted in the fight, that's why he couldn't breath, in all that's why he lost the fight. Then, Cotto had the wrong game plan, he didn't go to Margarito's body , in effect he lost the fight. Then, Cotto didn't train hard enough, that's why he didn't have enough stamina in the fight, hence he couldn't keep up in the fight. Then, it was Margarito, he was too big for Cotto, Cotto fought someone who was too big for him and that's why he lost. Then, Margarito had to use steroids, no one gets hit that much and doesn't go down. Now it's Margarito used plaster and that's the only way he could've beat Cotto. I didn't know they could put plaster on your chin and make it invisible. Also, Cotto didn't get knocked out with once punch. He was hit many of times, in effect his body was broken down. Plaster or not you can't deny Cotto was hit alot. Probably the most ever by any opponent. Cotto also wasn't backing Margarito down, he was back pedaling and dancing the whole fight. Could it be that psychology played a role in this fight???? When somebody gives you their best shots and you don't even shake them???? Hmmmmmmm?????? Nothing can ever change that historic fight. One of the best fight ever in boxing.

? You are slow today.

All the things you mentioned turned out to be a factor and a DIRECT result of plaster wraps. If you think Cotto's nose should have held up to sheetrock punches from a ****** then maybe you need to get Margs sack off your temple.

Margarito is a greasy cheater... Shane already punished him and now, just like Vargas, the rest of the WWs will pass him around like a fluffer. Just watch.



Say NO to plaster and esteroids.

[aztecadq]

[QUOTE=PavlikRules;4860767]BIG difference. Tito's power was evident. Natural... plaster or loaded gloves don't KNOCK heads off as Tito was known to do.


Cherifi Better Watch Tito's Hand Wraps.
Exclusive by Ron Heard

On September 29, 2001 before the fight between Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad, team Hopkins sent a representative from their team to over-see Tito's hands being wrapped. When their representative arrived he was shocked to see that Tito's left hand was already wrapped, signed off and the boxing glove was on. In an exclusive interview Bernard Hopkins (said), "I sent my team in there to watch Trinidad wrap his hands and when they got there
Trinidad's left hand was already wrapped and he had his boxing glove on. So my trainer, Bouie Fisher who has been doing this stuff for a long time went over there to straighten it up. The thing is Trinidad has been getting away with doing this for a long time. I know for a fact that he has done it at least one other fight. They are used to being able to do whatever they want and get away with it. That is how it is in boxing."
First of all, you have to wonder who this commissioner was that let Don Felix wrap Tito's hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp being there. Hopkins said, "not only did he let him wrap the hands without us being there, but he was in there joking and laughing and talking Spanish with the Trinidads like they were best friends. When Bouie told them that he would have to take it off and rewrap it in front of someone fron their camp, he said "NO," its
already wrapped and it's too close to time for the fight to start. Bouie had to go to the head commissioner before they were made to rewrap his hands."
Luckily for Hopkins, Bouie Fisher is old school and he was not going to let this fight go on with Tito having wrapped his left hand and nobody from his camp watching it. "Bouie kept telling them, either we do this by the book or we don't do it all," said Hopkins.

It didn't make since to Fisher why the Trinidad's were so insistent on not rewrapping the hand because obviously they knew the rules. They have been in enough of these big fights to know that a representative from the other camp is allowed to be in the room while they are wrapping Tito's hand. Even if the New York Commission's Representative didn't know any better, the Trinidads definitely did. The Trinidads went so far as to actually say, "If we have to rewrap Tito's hand then there will be no fight."
Why was this left hand wrapping so important to the Trinidads?
Finally, after the head commissioner became involved the Trinidads were told to either rewrap the left hand or the fight was off. After much argument, they finally agreed to rewrap the hand with a member from the Hopkins team present.
Tito was made to remove his glove and the prior wrapping in front of Hopkins representative Naazim Richardson who noticed that the wrap looked very thick and when he felt it he says it was as hard as a rock. All the sudden it became very clear why they had tried to get away with wrapping the left hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp watching and also why they didn't want to remove it and rewrap the hand.
Don Felix began to rewrap the hand again, but Richardson noticed that Don Felix was putting layers of tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze which is not in accordance with NYSAC rules. The rules stipulate tape cannot be applied directly over the knuckles, and that repeating the process several times (is not permitted).
In an interview with Bernard Fernandez of Philly.com, Hopkins said, "If you put on tape, then gauze, then tape, then gauze, it's like a [plaster] cast. It's like being hit with a baseball bat. I'm giving out some secrets here, but you can dip your hands in ice water and that tape will, like, marinate and become harder. But it's only cheating if you get caught. Personally, I think Vargas' and Reid's people dropped the ball. Naazim did a brilliant job in spotting what [Felix Trinidad Sr.] was doing with the wraps." Don Felix was also putting tape on the skin and over the knuckles, both of which are not in accordance with NYSAC rules. New York's head commissioner put his foot down and made Don Felix wrap in strict accordance to the rules.
Don Felix has insisted in several interviews that, "I have always wrapped Tito's hands this way and nobody else has ever said anything."
That’s like saying, I beat my wife all the time and I've never got in trouble for it before. Now, all the sudden you guys want to make a big deal out this. That's just not right, I'm a respectable man.
In a recent interview of Don Felix by Gerardo M. Avila-Planas and David Mesqueue., Don Felix was asked, "Do you think that the Hopkins camp did it (made them rewrap Tito's hand) to get to you psychologically?" and he answered, "Well, it got to us a little because, since I couldn’t place the tape that I usually place on Tito’s hand... I had to add some more gauze to make a type of pillow... This tends to take away some of the power in the punch."
There are a couple really important things in this statement by Don Felix.
First, he admits that the New York Commission wouldn't allow him to wrap the hands like he ALWAYS DOES. There can only be one reason for him not being allowed to wrap the hands that way - it was illegal. Therefore, if that is how he ALWAYS wrapped Tito's hands in the past, the assumption that he always wrapped illegally is not far-fetched. But this time he was forced to wrap the hands in strict accordance to NYSAC rules.

Second, he admits that not being able to use the layers and to put the tape on the skin and over the knuckles, "TENDS TO TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE POWER IN THE PUNCH." So he admits that with the illegal wrapping Tito is able to hit harder.
Finally, he also admits, that not only does the illegal wrap allow Tito to hit harder, but it PREVENTS TITO'S HANDS FROM OPENING ON IMPACT" which actually provides more protection for his hand. So while most fighters have to worry about hitting a fighter on the top of the head in fear of hurting their hands, Tito's hands have extra power and extra protection from illegal hand wraps.
You may think, "Oh Well," it's over. He wrapped the hands illegally, he got caught and was made to rewrap legally - no harm - no foul.
Not exactly.
First of all, Don Felix insists that he is going to continue to wrap Tito's hands the way he has always wrapped them - which is of course, illegally. In the same interview quoted above, Don Felix is asked straight out, "Will you be wrapping Tito’s hands differently for this upcoming fight with Cherifi?" and to my absolute amazement his answer was, "No, we’ll be doing it the same way we’ve always done it because I believe that we wouldn’t have the same problems we had for the last fight. That controversy was really done to fill our heads with too many things at the same time. It was like a type of terrorism in a time when terrorism was in the United States. It was boxing terrorism."
I don't see how you can blame Hopkins for not allowing them to wrap Tito's left hand without anyone from his camp being there. Hown one day the cops come and arrest you just after one of your sparring sessions on her face, you can't blame the cops for terrorizing you just because you got away with it all the other times.
If the wraps were illegal, then they will be and always have been illegal. That is as long as they are in the United States. Which brings up a very interesting twist.
Cherifi better watch very carefully how Tito wraps that left hand, but even if he does, are the same rules applicable in Puerto Rico? Even if the rules are the same will the commission there enforce them?

Regardless, the fact remains; the first reason to pay close attention to this issue is for the protection of Tito's future opponents, such as Cherifi. However, there is another reason. What about Tito's past opponents?
Tito Trinidad has moved up the boxing ranks by giving some of the best fighters in boxing a severe beating and some of them may never be the same after suffering the effects of that beating. Take for example, David Reid. In March of 2000 Reid, who was 14-0 and the WBA jr. middleweight champion of the world, stepped into the ring against Tito Trinidad. Reid had a good right hand and caught Tito with it in the 3rd round and sent him to the canvas. More importantly he was able to avoid Tito's left hook, but only until the 7th round. Tito knocked read down in the 7th and then 3 times in the 11th. Since that fight it has been apparent that Reid will never be the same fighter. He was literally ruined by one fight.

[fdotorres]

Biggest win against Puerto Rico was Sanchez vs Gomez. Get it right son.

he said "gets HIS biggest win against PR"

[ed*words]

no "buddy". He has stuck by that. He has always come short of discrediting his win, even if he hints at it. Margarito should be thanking him for not trying to take the shine off the win that made Margarito.

No one gave a **** about Margarito before the Cotto fight. And after this, only you guys are gonna give a **** about him. Cotto gave him his chance at stardom, got beat down with potentially loaded wraps, and still didn't try and take the win away from him. I'd say that deserves a little more ****ing respect guy.

well i have to get ready to watch the manny ramirez press conference.
everyone has their opinion, and thats why were here.
u wanted ur response and i hooked u up.

[aztecadq]

? You are slow today.

All the things you mentioned turned out to be a factor and a DIRECT result of plaster wraps. If you think Cotto's nose should have held up to sheetrock punches from a ****** then maybe you need to get Margs sack off your temple.

Margarito is a greasy cheater... Shane already punished him and now, just like Vargas, the rest of the WWs will pass him around like a fluffer. Just watch.



Say NO to plaster and esteroids.

Nah kid you got it twisted. I just wrote all the excuses the Cotto fans were giving right after the fight. Now you guys are laying it on plaster. Pretty pathetic. Just accept the lost.

[fdotorres]

I like your lame post back. Nothing can change that Puerto Rico needs the say of Uncle Sam TO EVER DO ANYTHING FROM HERE ON OUT. Second, You are delusional - Puerto Ricans spend the most welfare in the United States ( IT'S FUNNY HOW YOU LAST STATED THAT MEXICANS WAIT AT HOME DEPOT TO WORK, HOWEVER NOW YOU ARE STAING THAT MEXICANS USE UP WELFARE- GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BUDDY ) Hahahaa Caught you on that one. Third, I stated pure facts in my last post, you know you got served. Fourth, I'm proud to be 100% Mexican.

that's not true. PR doesn't need to ask for ANYTHING to the US, because our constitution works independently to theirs, except for some restrictions (the biggest one being imports and tax to the island)

apart from that, we do whatever we want. never heard about the closing of their bases in our island? yeah, we demanded that and they conceded, so don't run your mouth talking about things you clearly don't know much about

[aztecadq]

that's not true. PR doesn't need to ask for ANYTHING to the US, because our constitution works independently to theirs, except for some restrictions (the biggest one being imports and tax to the island)

apart from that, we do whatever we want. never heard about the closing of their bases in our island? yeah, we demanded that and they conceded, so don't run your mouth talking about things you clearly don't know much about

Exaclty, THEY CONCEDED. ULTIMATELY, THEY MADE THAT DECISION, THE UNITED STATES. SECOND, TELL YOUR COTTO FANS THAT, WHEN THEY START RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS ABOUT MEXICO AND PUTTING MEXICO IN THEIR POST. ALL THIS STARTED BECAUSE A COTTO FAN WANTED TO PUT DOWN MEXICO, I DIDN'T START THIS BUT I AM FINISHING IT.

[Da Hammer]

i want to see Margarito fight Cotto in PR so when he whoops him again this time Cotto nuthuggers wont come with the plaster excuse that they have no proof of to start with!!!!!

[aztecadq]

i want to see Margarito fight Cotto in PR so when he whoops him again this time Cotto nuthuggers wont come with the plaster excuse that they have no proof of to start with!!!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!

[fdotorres]

So first Cotto got his nose busted in the fight, that's why he couldn't breath, in all that's why he lost the fight. Then, Cotto had the wrong game plan, he didn't go to Margarito's body , in effect he lost the fight. Then, Cotto didn't train hard enough, that's why he didn't have enough stamina in the fight, hence he couldn't keep up in the fight. Then, it was Margarito, he was too big for Cotto, Cotto fought someone who was too big for him and that's why he lost. Then, Margarito had to use steroids, no one gets hit that much and doesn't go down. Now it's Margarito used plaster and that's the only way he could've beat Cotto. I didn't know they could put plaster on your chin and make it invisible. Also, Cotto didn't get knocked out with once punch. He was hit many of times, in effect his body was broken down. Plaster or not you can't deny Cotto was hit alot. Probably the most ever by any opponent. Cotto also wasn't backing Margarito down, he was back pedaling and dancing the whole fight. Could it be that psychology played a role in this fight???? When somebody gives you their best shots and you don't even shake them???? Hmmmmmmm?????? Nothing can ever change that historic fight. One of the best fight ever in boxing.

getting your nose busted at the beginning makes a huge difference in your breathing. cotto trained very well for this fight. PR is a small island, rumors are cleared fast, just like when gomez started sniffing ******* and many ricans started betting against him to get the better off of it. same when tito had a child outside of his marriage and started fooling around with women instead of running el yunque like he did every morning

on the steroids... i laughed at that when the rumor leaked. it started on the local radio by a dumb fan and got blown out of proportion

but the hard wraps are a reality, and common sense says that it's not the first time he used it, that it was not a mistake. common sense also suggests that if capetillo was fully responsible and marg didn't know, the FIRST thing he would've done is fire the cheating second that lost him his license for a year.

i'm willing to bet that he will keep capetillo as his second, and if he does, then it's pretty obvious that the whole team was behind this

btw, cotto's punches were more and more weak because he started throwing them while running back since the 2nd round. he didn't plant his feet on the ground and used his whole body as leverage on them. his biggest weakness is that the stays open for uppers when he targets the body (that's how he got wobbled against judah and torres)

i was amazed with margos job in that fight and dissapointed at the same time with cotto's calderon-like style in that fight, but i don't blame him because getting hit with a hard wrap is not that easy to withstand