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Old 07-31-2008, 08:35 PM
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You're sitting in the answer.

Quick. Name me a major wrestling institute in an urban area.

You can't.

Name me an institute in a largly rural area.

Minnesota
Iowa
Michigan St.
Wisconsin
Ohio St.
Arizona St.

Why is SoCal and Big Ten territories also MMA hotbeds?

Because they offer opportunities to wrestlers.
Talk about not understanding geography. Ohio State is not a major wrestling institute in a largly rural area. Ohio State University is in the middle of Columbus, Ohio, which is currently the 15th largest city in the United States. Large public universities don't usually set up shop in "rural" areas.

And, I don't see how your post disproves my theory that white males gravitate towards MMA because it is an outlet for them to express their manhood. If anything, your post supports my claim by labeling those areas as rural areas, which are mostly white areas, and by pointing out how MMA gives the athletic males of those areas different venues to compete professionally.
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:56 AM
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Here's something interesting. Some guy over at the boxing forum said:

"there are hardly any black MMA fighters..the ones the were are champs (silva) or were champs (jackson)"

In the thread titled "White fighters are taking over Boxing "

Which is bull****. And that's the sad thing about 90% of people who are watching this sport.

In reality , this sport has some striking resemblance to soccer. (not the sport itself of course) but by the racial makeup. MMA is one of the most racially diversified sport you can imagine.

But it is easy to think that "there's just whites" since Dana White and his monopoly of the sport gives you a distored vision of the entire mma scene.

Some basic facts.

In this sport. Some of the most dominant fighters are

Kid Yamamoto (asian - japanese)
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (latino Brazilian)
Anderson Silva (black brazilian)
BJ Penn ( from Kailua hawaii - american)
GSP (french canadian)
Fedor emelianenko (russian)

These guys are part of the P4P list...you can't argue and say that it ain't diversified.

The problem is that most none white participants aren't generally fighting in the # 1 american mma org (which happens to be the ufc). Although they're making an effort.

Pride fc (before the scandal) had one of the most international mma scene imaginable. They used to reflect how the mma scene truely was.

In mma , if you look at all orgs , (not just america)....You'll notice lots of mullatos , blacks (who generally come from brazil)...Lots of japanese fighters (who are almost absent in the ufc) , some latinos , some eastern europeans & of course , white americans.

Hell , i'd go even as far as to say that if we compare Ali's or Tyson's or Wlad's competition to let's say...Nogueira you'll notice that Nog's competition is WAY more "international"

Go ahead , do the experience. Take a look at foreman's or ali's record.
90% if not 95M% of their opponents ? born in america
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...0180&cat=boxer
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...0090&cat=boxer
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...7035&cat=boxer

Modern HWs have to deal with a bit more diversified scene though.
(remember , russians used to be banned from participating several years ago)

Let's compare shall we ? Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira had to deal with opponents coming from:
America
Brazil
croatia
Japan
Poland
Russia
canada
Netherlands


Think that's a lot ? Fedor had to deal with opponents coming from:
America
Korea
New Zealand
Brazil
Croatia
japan
trinidad
lithuania
england
bulgaria
georgia


of course , when the average fan doesn't know any better , and discovers mma via Liddell (for example)...He won't see too much of that "international" scene.

Liddell , for example fought guys from
america (of course..and lots of them)
brazil
armenia
netherland
foreman already beat the top guy from russia when he was 18, in the olympics.

unfortunately for mma, it isn't considered a sport by the olympics.
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