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Old 03-09-2013, 08:28 PM
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Haha you can add to this both didn't leave their trainers on good terms.

Khan made a fool of himself talking about Roach having Parkinsons and Ortiz claims his trainer told him to headbutt Mayweather
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:45 PM
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Both 25 years old. American and British. Born to immigrants

Both highly thought of from a young age and were moved quickly to the big stage as professionals. Both have good resumes for their age (i said for their age before you shoot me down)

- Khan stopped in 2008. Chin a question mark since that fight (although it was even before then). 2 years later and one weight class higher, proves his chin isn't so bad by surviving round 10 to beat Maidana. FOTY for 2010

- Ortiz stopped in 2009. Heart a question mark since then. 2 years later and one weight class higher, and proves he has heart, getting up from a heavy knockdown to beat Berto. FOTY for 2011

Both take losses in late 2011, followed by a long period of inactivity.

Both have rematches scheduled in 2012, and both their opponents test positive after themselves asking for random drug testing.

Both have last-minute replacement opponents who they are heavily favoured to beat, with potential big money fights with Mayweather and Alvarez depending on them winning

Both lose in similar ways to their first major loss. Khan on jelly legs after taking a big shot, gets up and bravely attempts to fight back, but gets stopped. Ortiz in a slugfest, and decides not to continue after taking a lot of shots (I'm not going to say he quit after hearing about the seriousness of his injuries)

And now both are being written off and getting a lot of hate. Ortiz has already split with his trainer and i think Khan needs to do the same (he probably is doing behind the scenes). Both need someone who will work on their defensive flaws - they're both very good offensively already, and great athletes. They also need to go easy with random comments that make you go WTF?

Mark my words, BOTH will be back. Not saying they'll ever be elite fighters, but they can be damn good

WAR KHAN! WAR ORTIZ!

And they're good friends too, strangely enough..

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Old 03-09-2013, 09:03 PM
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Good thread..

I think both will be back,I think both are decent fighters..But their both lacking two things a fighter needs most..

In Khans case it's brains,but maybe with Hunter,he can correct this flaw..I think Khan has a higher ceiling then Ortiz tbh..

Ortiz is lacking brains and heart..Listen the kid obviously has heart to get in the ring in the first place..But Ortiz does not have heart in a sense that he can use it as a attribute in the ring..Ortiz could have been great if ya could have added at least one of the two things mentioned..
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