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View Poll Results: Opinion on Amateur in relation to Professional
Amateur skill does translate to Professional Skill 20 64.52%
Amateur Skill is no indication of how one would do in the Pros 10 32.26%
A mediocre Professional Resume, Outweighs an incredible Amateur Resume 1 3.23%
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:33 PM
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What u also have to realize is that amateur success translating to professional success also depends in a BIG way on who u sign with and who the matchmaker is...take two kids, one an olympic gold medal winner and the other just a local kid...have them both fight and beat the same 20 guys in the EXACT same fashion. OK, well, the guy with the solid promoter is going to be ranked # 8 in the world afterwards and the other kid is going to be # 44...same opponents, same win/loss ratio, etc...one gets rewarded, the other doesnt...one gets opportunities based on it, the other does not...
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:08 PM
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It is a COMMON myth that amateur boxing is this soft and safe sport...the headgear limits CUTS, not actual equlibriem (sp??) damage so much..some of the best KO's I have ever seen have come either in amateur fights or the gym with headgear on...also. the gloves ARE NOT HUGE LOL I dont know who told someone that and they ran with it but amateurs fight in 10 or 12 ounce ounce gloves depending on the weight class, same as pro fights (Ive fought in 12's as a pro a coule times)...you should definitely not make the mistake of thinking punches in amateur boxing are soft and weak...anyone going to a gym and putting on 12 ounce amateur fight gloves will NOT wish to get hit with them, I can assure you of this.
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:38 AM
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:46 AM
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What u also have to realize is that amateur success translating to professional success also depends in a BIG way on who u sign with and who the matchmaker is...take two kids, one an olympic gold medal winner and the other just a local kid...have them both fight and beat the same 20 guys in the EXACT same fashion. OK, well, the guy with the solid promoter is going to be ranked # 8 in the world afterwards and the other kid is going to be # 44...same opponents, same win/loss ratio, etc...one gets rewarded, the other doesnt...one gets opportunities based on it, the other does not...
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:26 AM
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Bumping this thread, cause this fight is no longer Hypothetical.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:32 AM
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bumping again because this was pretty much the reasoning behind my prediction for the Donaire/Rigo fight.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:43 AM
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Well I mean compare these two:

Rigondeaux
Audley Harrison

Sometimes an amateur pedigree is good, but sometimes it can harm you. Amir Khan is a good example

Maybe for the case of Rigondeaux, it's just his natural skill as a fighter, amateur or not
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:34 AM
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Well I mean compare these two:

Rigondeaux
Audley Harrison

Sometimes an amateur pedigree is good, but sometimes it can harm you. Amir Khan is a good example

Maybe for the case of Rigondeaux, it's just his natural skill as a fighter, amateur or not
Like I said in another thread, it depends on the fighter. When you try to dismiss someone as skilled as Rigo cause he's an "amateur" its dumb.

The example I used was Zou Shiming, 2 time gold medalist but when you look at his "skillset" do you really think he's gonna make it in the pros? Regardless of age or not.

Amir Khan too, very successful amateur but he can't use his tools for sh1t so he gets sh1tted on. I'm a fan but still, its the truth.


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