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View Poll Results: Could Pacquiao beat Cotto, Marg, and Oscar without the catch-weights?
Yes, all of them 22 52.38%
No, none of them 9 21.43%
Just Margartio 3 7.14%
Just Cotto 1 2.38%
Just Oscar 1 2.38%
He could have beat 2 out of the 3. 6 14.29%
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:12 AM
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Default Could have Pacquiao win without the catch-weights?

Do you think Pacquiao could have beat his opponents that he fought at catch-weight without the catch-weight? And fought them at the weight they're most comfortable at?

Cotto, Margarito, Oscar De La Hoya(that's all I could think of that he fought at catch weight)

Did he fight anyone else at a catch-weight?

Ok well first of all Pacquiao is small dude I think he deserves to fight the bigger guys at a catch-weight because it'll just be a fairer fight.

However, what do you guys think will happen if he fought at 154? He can't even make that weight but do you think he could've beat the guys he beat at catch-weight without the catch-weight?

I personally think he has a good chance it'll be a harder fight but I can still see him beating all of them.

What do you guys think?

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Old 02-04-2013, 03:17 AM
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Pacquaio will beat every guy you mentioned.

I dislike Pacquaio.. but the only guys that could beat Prime Pacquaio are JMm and Floyd.

Oscar was shot.. it won't matter if the fight was at 147 154 or 180,,, Oscar was done.

Cotto was never at Pacquaio's level.. it won't matter either.

Margarito is a warrior.. but once again never on Pacquaio's level.
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He didn't fight Oscar at a CW.

And yes, he could beat all of them except for Marquez.
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Margarito was borderline shot at the time, as was oscar.

prime versions at their best weights would beat Pacquiao.

Cotto isn't at that level, pac murders him any time any place
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Well Pacquaio didn't want to come up to 154 to fight Cotto after Cotto lost to Floyd last year. Pac wanted to fight at 150 but Cotto denied so Pac decided to go for JMM 4. If Pac really believed he could beat Cotto at 154 why didn't he take it? Bigger fight than JMM 4 IMO. Because Pac would be moving up to a new weight class.
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He would have won against Oscar for sure.... that was a fat, semi-retired, hardly training oscar de la hoya.
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He didn't fight Oscar at a CW.

And yes, he could beat all of them except for Marquez.
Well Oscar was at a weight he hadn't been at in years.

Roach even said on 24/7 that he saw the IV needle marks on DLH's arms where he'd been drip fed water after the weigh in.

Discounting that when evaluating the win is insanity.
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Well Oscar was at a weight he hadn't been at in years.

Roach even said on 24/7 that he saw the IV needle marks on DLH's arms where he'd been drip fed water after the weigh in.

Discounting that when evaluating the win is insanity.
But still not a catchweight? and its' Oscar who set the weight and many insiders think Oscar is cherry picking Pac that time...

Although if they fight both on their primes, I will give it a toss up between the two.
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Then why does he DEMAND them if he dont need them to win ?

On top of a CW why put Margo into a 26 ft ring with 8oz gloves , lol the fans would not have a clue its just a fight to them wtf do they know about weight .

Why does he beat Cotto with a CW and flat refuses to fight him without one , same man right ? WRONG !

Why did he refuse JMM 143 ? because Juan is smaller than him and Manny has had a weight advantage over JMM in every fight , so they thought they would slow JMM down forcing him to go toe to toe , Roach came out and said this , KARMA BITES .lol , they should know after Bradley that forcing them up is not the same as forcing them down .

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Then why does he DEMAND them if he dont need them to win ?

On top of a CW why put Margo into a 26 ft ring with 8oz gloves , lol the fans would not have a clue its just a fight to them wtf do they know about weight .

Why does he beat Cotto with a CW and flat refuses to fight him without one , same man right ? WRONG !

Why did he refuse JMM 143 ? because Juan is smaller than him and Manny has had a weight advantage over JMM in every fight , so they thought they would slow JMM down forcing him to go toe to toe , Roach came out and said this , KARMA BITES .lol , they should know after Bradley that forcing them up is not the same as forcing them down .

Manny is a WW fake , he was a fabricated superman built on the back of his great 130 career fights and sold to masses through good match making and made to order rules , no fighter in history has had so many conditions forced on opponents , he cant stop a WW without a CW and gets face planted by a LW and you ask does he a need a CW to beat those guys , you bet he does thats why he DEMANDED them or its no fight ! what proof do you need lol .

Why is your bar all red? I'm a horrible poster and I'm not even red.. you seem like you really try to sound knowledgeable yet you still keep getting red ked.
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