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Old 01-31-2013, 07:31 PM
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Peterson asked for extensive testing (OST) ===> Peterson busted on using PED

Berto accused Ortiz on PED and asked for extensive testing (OST) ===> Berto busted on using PED

Floyd accused Pac on PED and asked for extensive testing (OST) ===> Floyd positive 3x on PED....

lol!
They know they will get tested positive. They trusted GBP to take care of it. What Berto and Peterson probably didn't know was VADA was a different testing agency. Schaefer was so angry at VADA, not at Berto and Peterson.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:40 PM
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They know they will get tested positive. They trusted GBP to take care of it. What Berto and Peterson probably didn't know was VADA was a different testing agency. Schaefer was so angry at VADA, not at Berto and Peterson.
dont u think this sounds a little like x files like your gone off the deep end agent scully
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:07 PM
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Anyone naive enough to still believe Mayweather isn't juicing? Boxing's Great Ped Crusader doesn't address a failed test rumour given validity by boxing's best writer, but just keeps quiet it so it goes away?

The guy who fights once every 12-18 while past the age of 30?

Who makes 20m+ per fight?

Who chooses his opponents so carefully so as to never jeopardise his 0?

Who is apparently too morally upstanding to do PEDS, while nice guys like Mosley, Holyfield, Pac, JMM aren't?

This guy is clean while everyone else is juicing
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C'mon, son.

yea you are obviusly not bias.
there have been many times where floyd goes without saying anything but he is floyd mayweather so when he keeps quiet something is funny if he is talking he is an ass hole liar who talks out his ass
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:11 PM
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I didn't assume he was doing anything. My suspicion levels rose and rightly so I think based on what was now in front of me.
what is in front of you?a vid of mayweather looking confused about a testasteroine question that was not even aout mayweather
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:15 PM
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dont u think this sounds a little like x files like your gone off the deep end agent scully
Not at all. We all have our theories. There are facts that can't be ignored: Peterson and Berto demanded tests. That's fact. They tested positive. That's also fact. Do you think they're stupid or what? Why demand test when you know you're doping? Explain that to me.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:17 PM
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I don't understand why journalists haven't asked the relevant questions to Travis Tygart (USADA). Why this negligence?
The answer is that it is the same reason why journalists haven't asked Bob Arum relevant questions about all the lies he told to avoid staging a Mayweather/Pacquaio fight; the same reason they haven't asked Arum or HBO relevant questions about the phony PPV numbers that Arum continues to give regarding Pacquaio fights; and the same reason why they haven't asked Arum relevant questions about why he and Nonito Donaire would turn down a $3 million offer to fight Abner Mares to instead stage a fight against Rigondeaux that will only pay Donaire $1 million at most. The answer is simply:

THEY ARE NOT JOURNALISTS! They are bloggers who won't rock the boat because they want to continue to receive free passes to major fights and the free buffets and gifts that come with the promotion of these fights.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:42 PM
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What was the info on that? I have read it a number of times where was it sourced?
You do know the source of the De La Hoya failed drug tests was also an article from Hauser. There was never any follow up because in the end there was no evidence other than an unknown source claiming the NSAC hid the failed tests." The Vegas Commission denied that De La Hoya ever failed any tests. Now he writes a story that USADA is hiding Floyd's failed tests. USADA loves the pub for catching dirty athletes as they are living it up with the Lance Armstrong mess. Boxing is only a minor portion of their yearly revenue. They would hang Floyd hook, line and sinker if he was dirty. Not save him.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:56 PM
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You do know the source of the De La Hoya failed drug tests was also an article from Hauser. There was never any follow up because in the end there was no evidence other than an unknown source claiming the NSAC hid the failed tests." The Vegas Commission denied that De La Hoya ever failed any tests. Now he writes a story that USADA is hiding Floyd's failed tests. USADA loves the pub for catching dirty athletes as they are living it up with the Lance Armstrong mess. Boxing is only a minor portion of their yearly revenue. They would hang Floyd hook, line and sinker if he was dirty. Not save him.
Why did they wanna save Morales though?
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:59 PM
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Why did they wanna save Morales though?
Because Morales just ate a tainted Chimichanga.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:06 PM
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What's important to remember here is that Hauser presented a pretty compelling example of, at the very least, extremely unsatisfactory handling of the Morales positive tests in the case of Garcia-Morales II. That in itself made this a very important article.

Secondly, it's very important to not that ideas like 'clean' and 'dirty' can be somewhat subjective. What has been suggested in relation to Mayweather, is that he received exemptions which themselves cover a wide array of circumstances and could relate to a lot of different issues. For all we know, Floyd could have received an exemption for cough medicine.

But whatever the case may be, the Morales incident demonstrated that the type of transparency which would make more serious transgressions impossible is not in place. And the implication that Mayweather may have been undergoing testosterone replacement therapy, and may have received TUEs to do so as is the case with a lot of combat athletes, is certainly possible. I don't think you can say anymore than that without the release of the relevant records, but you can certainly say that much.
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