Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
Reply
Thread Navigation

#1
Old 01-22-2013, 11:01 AM
ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Age: 46
Posts: 5,890
Rep Power: 34 ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 100,348,789.38
Bank: 23,071,428,901.59
Total Points: 23,171,777,690.97
boxingscene's Top Ten Serious Posters - mickey gomez ICE IS THE MAN! - S a m u r a i Paid his dues - RunW/Knives Cash for the Iceman - RunW/Knives Sick fighter all heart - RunW/Knives 
Skill and Know also, but Lion Heart. - RunW/Knives BScene's treasure! - jazluvr Thanks for the help and Happy New Year! - The Surgeon enjoyed your fights, you are awesome - happyman one of the great posters - jas 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - street bully Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jazluvr 
Default Amazing Stats...from yesteryear...

Mark Breland, 5-0 with 5 KO's in New York City's Daily News Golden Gloves championship bouts...back in these days NYC boasted some of the toughest amateur competition, too...

1980: 139 Novice Final: Mark Breland, Spartan AC, Defeated Angel Garcia, Spartan AC, RSC-1 (1:27)

1981: 147 Open Final: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Jose Martinez, Universe BC, RSC-2 (2:22)

1982: 147 Open Final: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Pedro Estrada, Universe BC, RSC-1 (0:51)

1983: 147 Open Final: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Rodney Bowen, Bed-Stuy BA, RSC-3 (0:50)

1984: 147 Open Final : Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Victor Laguer, 18th Ave Gym, RSC-1 (0:42)...this was Mark's record-breaking 5 NYCGG title, fight was shown live on ABC Sports...
Reply With Quote
ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#2
Old 01-22-2013, 11:04 AM
RVABoxer
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,382
Rep Power: 11 RVABoxer has a reputation beyond reputeRVABoxer has a reputation beyond reputeRVABoxer has a reputation beyond reputeRVABoxer has a reputation beyond reputeRVABoxer has a reputation beyond reputeRVABoxer has a reputation beyond reputeRVABoxer has a reputation beyond reputeRVABoxer has a reputation beyond reputeRVABoxer has a reputation beyond reputeRVABoxer has a reputation beyond reputeRVABoxer has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,000,050,096.21
Bank: 3,413,584.43
Total Points: 10,003,463,680.64
New green k thread pioneer - Trudoe 
Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - Trudoe 
Default

Mark Breland was a beast in the amateurs! He didnt fair so well in the pros did he? or atleast as good as his amateur record would lead you to believe he would do as a pro
Reply With Quote
RVABoxer is offline
#3
Old 01-22-2013, 11:10 AM
ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Age: 46
Posts: 5,890
Rep Power: 34 ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 100,348,789.38
Bank: 23,071,428,901.59
Total Points: 23,171,777,690.97
boxingscene's Top Ten Serious Posters - mickey gomez ICE IS THE MAN! - S a m u r a i Paid his dues - RunW/Knives Cash for the Iceman - RunW/Knives Sick fighter all heart - RunW/Knives 
Skill and Know also, but Lion Heart. - RunW/Knives BScene's treasure! - jazluvr Thanks for the help and Happy New Year! - The Surgeon enjoyed your fights, you are awesome - happyman one of the great posters - jas 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - street bully Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jazluvr 
Default

The G.O.A.T?
The Greatest Amateur Boxer of All-Time?:

Who is the greatest and most dominant amateur boxer of all-time? That is a frequently asked question that has produced some very long and drawn out battles on message boards across the internet as fans, fighters, trainers and everyone else weigh in with their picks. Not that long ago I did an unofficial poll not long ago where I emailed a large group of former amateur boxers and posed the question to them. Who was the best amateur ever? I received quite a few responses from some very knowledgeable people and without a doubt the high majority of replies agreed with what I had always thought.

I assumed some would come up with either Teofilo Stevenson, Felix Savon or Laslo Papp and several did, too. Sugar Ray Leonard also got a few votes as did Howard Davis Jr.

Former world champion and Olympic champion Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker (not in my poll) has said it was Johnny Bumphus while I have heard others mention Bernard Taylor as being the best ever.

The previously mentioned amateurs were great as were many others like Cassius Clay, Paul Gonzalez and Eric Griffin but the fact is that no one dominated their weight class in the overall manner that Mark Breland did. Teo was great, too, as his three Olympic gold medals would suggest, but two aspects of the great Cuban's career stand out to me when weighing in on who was the most dominant guy. One is the fact that when he won his second and third gold medals the victories came largely over much younger and less experienced boxers. The class of boxers from his first Olympic year in 1972 had all turned professional and left Teo to deal with a new crop of upstarts that physically and mentally weren't prepared to deal with what he had become.

The original questions went just like this: "Who was the best amateur from your era and who was the best, most dominant, amateur boxer of all time?"

Among the replies I received were these:

"Mark Breland...and Mark Breland." - "Tricky" Ricky Frazier, former light heavyweight contender

"The best amateur boxer was, by far, Mark Breland." - 1985 U.S. National Amateur champion Kevin "KB" Bryant, Bronx, New York.

"1. Pernell Whitaker 2. Mark Breland." - Tim Griffin (brother of former 175 pound champion Montell Griffin)

"Mark Breland was the most dominant of my era (early eighties)." - Dewith Frazier (former top Canadian amateur and current trainer)

"Mark Breland was the best in our era and Stevenson from Cuba was the best ever." - Former two-time world champion Reggie "Sweet" Johnson

"Mark Breland and Roy Jones from my era. Best ever was Teofilio Stevenson. PS: Best punch? John Scully vs. Kertis Mingo (at the National PAL in 1987)." - Former heavyweight contender Lou Savarese

"Best Amateur of my Era: Mark Breland. Most Dominant: Mark Breland." - 1982 World Amateur champion Floyd Favors, Washington, D.C.


"The best amateur boxer from America is probably Mark Breland. Teofilo Stevenson is a great name and there are a few other eastern European and Cuban boxers that won a few Olympic Medals." - Current 140 pound contender Dmitriy Salita, Brooklyn, New York.


Another thing for me is that as great as he was in Olympic and world championship competitions, Teo didn't always exhibit the same dominance in International meets and smaller tournaments. He was defeated by Craig Payne of the USA, for example, in the 1983 North American Championships and Payne was not even the #1 ranked U.S. Super heavyweight at the time.

(I should note out of fairness here that when I posed the question to Mark Breland, he himself said that Stevenson was the best ever)

As a matter of fact there was a span in the 1980's where Stevenson lost four times in under two years and he also lost four times in 1983 alone including the decision to Payne. On top of that while he defeated Germany's Ulli Kaden on six different occasions he also lost to him three times.

Savon was also a great amateur boxer who won many, many amateur titles just as Stevenson did but the thing with him, like with Stevenson, is that he defeated so many guys that were much younger and less experienced than he was. It also should be noted that he has been said to have lost more than a few fights right on his own Island of Cuba to lesser known boxers and I know of at least five different occasions in his amateur career where he has been stopped inside the distance (including twice by fellow Cuban Juan Delis Causse.

So while Savon and Teo stayed amateur and captured many medals I would have to figure that guys like Breland and Whitaker, if they stayed amateur, would have also gone on and continued to dominate amateur boxing in their weight classes in similar fashion. I don't think any of the welterweight Olympians we've seen since 1984 were going to beat Breland, that's for sure.
Reply With Quote
ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY is offline
#4
Old 01-22-2013, 11:11 AM
ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Age: 46
Posts: 5,890
Rep Power: 34 ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 100,348,789.38
Bank: 23,071,428,901.59
Total Points: 23,171,777,690.97
boxingscene's Top Ten Serious Posters - mickey gomez ICE IS THE MAN! - S a m u r a i Paid his dues - RunW/Knives Cash for the Iceman - RunW/Knives Sick fighter all heart - RunW/Knives 
Skill and Know also, but Lion Heart. - RunW/Knives BScene's treasure! - jazluvr Thanks for the help and Happy New Year! - The Surgeon enjoyed your fights, you are awesome - happyman one of the great posters - jas 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - street bully Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jazluvr 
Default

Breland, however, had 111 amateur fights and only lost ONE. That was early in his open class amateur career, at the 1981 nationals. For the rest of 1981 and all of 1982, 1983 and 1984 Breland was undefeated. His 110-1 record included more than seventy stoppages (a very high amateur KO ratio).

Let me tell you something else. You will often hear of some amateur kid turning pro and his promotional team will put out information giving the kid an amateur record of 112-3 or something like that. You also hear how some kid who is turning pro was a ten time national champion. Bull Spit! When you say "nationals" to someone who knows what they are talking about then they are thinking either the USA/ABF Nationals or the Golden Gloves. There are many other "national tournaments" that boast top flight competition and it is definitely an accomplishment to win them (The Ohio State Fair, for example) but when you say someone is a seven time or a ten time national champion you would automatically assume they won one of the two major nationals. Most of the time, though, it is definitely a case of the reader being misled because the fact of the matter is that winning the Mayor's Cup or the Ringside Tournament three times isn't anything like winning the U.S. Championships three times.

I just read a couple days ago where this kid in Pennsylvania is going pro, for example, and they listed his amateur record as 115-3. Nonsense! If there is a kid who has a record like that and he has only lost three bouts or less than you will definitely hear about him. Having over one hundred bouts with only a handful of losses means that the kid is winning all his local and regional competitions and is not only qualifying for national tournaments but winning most of them, too. Other than Mark, who won every local, regional, national and international tournament he ever entered except for the 1981 USA/ABF National Championships, you are going to be extremely hard pressed to find any kids who win at that level almost every single time.

Mark's record of one amateur loss, however, in indisputable. He lost the one fight to Darryl Anthony in 1981 and that's it and if he had in fact lost to someone else along the way then the guys who beat him would have claimed it. Also, Mark was such a high profile amateur that his entire career was under a microscope. No room to lie. So when you hear of a guy that has only three amateur losses with over 100 victories? You can be pretty sure that if he isn't a five time U.S. national champion or hasn't been in a substantial number of national and international amateur bouts then there are probably at least ten or twelve guys around the boxing world reading his amateur record assuming that they are one of the three who are being credited with beating this guy!

Breland's record also boasts an 18-0 International fight log, including a 6-0 run at the 1984 Olympic Games in Los Angeles. He defeated the best Russian (1980 Olympic silver medalist Serik Konakbaev) and the best Cuban (1983 World Cup champion Candelario Duvergal) in USA-vs-The World dual meets. Mark also scored stoppage victories over top Americans like All-Army champion James Mitchell, 1983 Pan-American Games welterweight champion Louis Howard, North American Champion Ron Esset, David Guttierez, and Mylon Watkins (Howard, Esset and Watkins were all National Golden Gloves Champions and Mitchell was a National ABF -formerly known as the AAU- Champion).

Mark also won a decision in the 1982 U.S. Nationals over future IBF Jr. welterweight champion Frankie Warren and then defeated future #1 rated amateur welterweight Alton Rice at the 1984 Olympic Trials.

He was the first man ever to win the New York City Golden Gloves title FIVE times, scoring more than twenty knockout victories over the course of those five tournaments. It got to the point that 1984 saw not only miles ahead of everyone in his weight class but Mark was already somewhat of a living legend in New York boxing circles. He won the 1980 NYC Golden Gloves as a sixteen year old with five victories and one year later, in the 1981 tournament as a seventeen year old, he won the welterweight crown with four stoppage (TKO) victories in a row.

His career record in the New York Golden Gloves was 23-0 with 22 big stoppage wins (an unprecedented amateur stoppage ratio), including an astounding 15 first round technical knockout victories over the five tournaments he participated in.

Maybe the most impressive fact that resulted from his five year reign in the NYCGG is that he scored stoppage victories in all five championship bouts that he participated in. Three of them ended in the first round, one in the second and the other in the third.


New York City Golden Gloves Finals:
1980: 139 Novice: Mark Breland, Spartan AC, Defeated Angel Garcia, Spartan AC, RSC (1:27 1st round)
1981: 147 Open: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Jose Martinez, Universe BC, RSC (2:22 2nd round)
1982: 147 Open: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Pedro Estrada, Universe BC, RSC-1 (0:51)
1983: 147 Open: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Rodney Bowen, Bed-Stuy BA, RSC (0:50 3rd round)
1984: 147 Open: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Victor Laguer, 18th Ave Gym, RSC (0:42 1st round)


Mark was so big in New York boxing circles that a 1985 article that appeared in the New York Daily News Golden Gloves program book quoted a novice class 178 pounder from Brooklyn as saying, "Mark is Mark and I'm me. Nobody expects another Mark to just pop up. But I think I'm a good boxer and I want to follow his career in a way. I want to win the gloves a bunch more times and then compete in the 1988 Olympics in Seoul, Korea and then turn pro like he did."

The light heavyweight from Brooklyn quoted in the article was a tall and skinny Breland clone by the name of Riddick Bowe.

1982 saw Mark win the world amateur welterweight title and he was also a two-time USA/ABF national champion, winning 147 pound titles in 1982 and 1983. As a fifteen year old he won the National Junior Olympic Championship and the one man to beat him as an amateur, Darryl Anthony in 1981 before Mark made a huge name for himself in the amateur ranks, was stopped by him in three rounds later on as a professional.

So history shows us that, unlike Savon, Stevenson or anybody else for that matter, Mark Breland was on point and at the top of his game in local smokers, national level bouts, world dual meets as well as the Olympic games and, as a result, I think it's fair to say that no one in history ever DOMINATED a single amateur weight class in the manner that he did.

Epilogue: As a professional boxer Mark won two world welterweight titles on the way to compiling a 35-3 record with 25 stoppages. Among his victories were a stoppage of former undisputed world welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan and Darryl Anthony, the St. Louis boxer who scored the only victory against him his 110-1 amateur career.

While he did not have a particularly long career and might not have reached the awesome heights predicted for him (to be fair...WHO could have??) but one guy who is still very impressed with Mark as a professional is the man who beat him in 1987 for his WBA 147 pound title, Marlon "Moochie" Starling. Marlon and I have been in gyms together on many occasions and almost every time someone mentions Mark's name around him now he says almost the same exact thing every time:

"Mark's jab HURT! I boxed in the gym with guys like Tommy Hearns and Virgil Hill and I fought Honeyghan, Blocker and Nunn and I don't care what anybody says. NOBODY had a jab like Mark's. His jab was like anybody else's right hand."
Reply With Quote
ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY is offline
#5
Old 01-22-2013, 11:31 AM
ddangerous
Neck Mohican
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The States
Posts: 5,225
Rep Power: 23 ddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 404,144.79
Bank: 16,758,347,258,115.96
Total Points: 16,758,347,662,260.75
Happy New Year - Freedom. nice betting with you - Jloro Thanks for the green karma brother! =] - Tyler_Durden Congrats on breaking 5,000 posts bro! =] - Tyler_Durden 5000 post - -jose- 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY View Post
Mark Breland, 5-0 with 5 KO's in New York City's Daily News Golden Gloves championship bouts...back in these days NYC boasted some of the toughest amateur competition, too...

1980: 139 Novice Final: Mark Breland, Spartan AC, Defeated Angel Garcia, Spartan AC, RSC-1 (1:27)

1981: 147 Open Final: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Jose Martinez, Universe BC, RSC-2 (2:22)

1982: 147 Open Final: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Pedro Estrada, Universe BC, RSC-1 (0:51)

1983: 147 Open Final: Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Rodney Bowen, Bed-Stuy BA, RSC-3 (0:50)

1984: 147 Open Final : Mark Breland, Bed-Stuy BA, Defeated Victor Laguer, 18th Ave Gym, RSC-1 (0:42)...this was Mark's record-breaking 5 NYCGG title, fight was shown live on ABC Sports...
One of Danny's next opponents should bring this up at a press conference when Angel starts getting carried away.
Reply With Quote
ddangerous is offline
#6
Old 01-22-2013, 11:48 AM
ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Age: 46
Posts: 5,890
Rep Power: 34 ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 100,348,789.38
Bank: 23,071,428,901.59
Total Points: 23,171,777,690.97
boxingscene's Top Ten Serious Posters - mickey gomez ICE IS THE MAN! - S a m u r a i Paid his dues - RunW/Knives Cash for the Iceman - RunW/Knives Sick fighter all heart - RunW/Knives 
Skill and Know also, but Lion Heart. - RunW/Knives BScene's treasure! - jazluvr Thanks for the help and Happy New Year! - The Surgeon enjoyed your fights, you are awesome - happyman one of the great posters - jas 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - street bully Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jazluvr 
Default

Hmmm...could it be?????
Reply With Quote
ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY is offline
#7
Old 01-22-2013, 12:03 PM
ddangerous
Neck Mohican
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The States
Posts: 5,225
Rep Power: 23 ddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 404,144.79
Bank: 16,758,347,258,115.96
Total Points: 16,758,347,662,260.75
Happy New Year - Freedom. nice betting with you - Jloro Thanks for the green karma brother! =] - Tyler_Durden Congrats on breaking 5,000 posts bro! =] - Tyler_Durden 5000 post - -jose- 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY View Post
Hmmm...could it be?????
Brooklynite of PR descent, I believe so.
Reply With Quote
ddangerous is offline
#8
Old 01-22-2013, 12:51 PM
-DSG-
Matthysse will KO Garcia
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,162
Rep Power: 15 -DSG- has a reputation beyond repute-DSG- has a reputation beyond repute-DSG- has a reputation beyond repute-DSG- has a reputation beyond repute-DSG- has a reputation beyond repute-DSG- has a reputation beyond repute-DSG- has a reputation beyond repute-DSG- has a reputation beyond repute-DSG- has a reputation beyond repute-DSG- has a reputation beyond repute-DSG- has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 325,680,338,546.44
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 325,680,338,546.44
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ddangerous View Post
Brooklynite of PR descent, I believe so.
His dad never boxed because he had asthma.
Reply With Quote
-DSG- is online now
#9
Old 01-22-2013, 12:51 PM
ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Age: 46
Posts: 5,890
Rep Power: 34 ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond reputeICEMAN JOHN SCULLY has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 100,348,789.38
Bank: 23,071,428,901.59
Total Points: 23,171,777,690.97
boxingscene's Top Ten Serious Posters - mickey gomez ICE IS THE MAN! - S a m u r a i Paid his dues - RunW/Knives Cash for the Iceman - RunW/Knives Sick fighter all heart - RunW/Knives 
Skill and Know also, but Lion Heart. - RunW/Knives BScene's treasure! - jazluvr Thanks for the help and Happy New Year! - The Surgeon enjoyed your fights, you are awesome - happyman one of the great posters - jas 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - street bully Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jazluvr 
Default

I know a guy who trains at their gym in Philly...Ill ask him out of curiosity...
Reply With Quote
ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY is offline
#10
Old 01-22-2013, 02:49 PM
ddangerous
Neck Mohican
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The States
Posts: 5,225
Rep Power: 23 ddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond reputeddangerous has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 404,144.79
Bank: 16,758,347,258,115.96
Total Points: 16,758,347,662,260.75
Happy New Year - Freedom. nice betting with you - Jloro Thanks for the green karma brother! =] - Tyler_Durden Congrats on breaking 5,000 posts bro! =] - Tyler_Durden 5000 post - -jose- 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by -BORICUA- View Post
His dad never boxed because he had asthma.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY View Post
I know a guy who trains at their gym in Philly...Ill ask him out of curiosity...
Perhaps just a coincidence then, but it couldn't hurt to ask.
Reply With Quote
ddangerous is offline
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
amazing, stats...from, yesteryear...

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright 2003-2013 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:16 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.