Did Floyd "retire" in 2007 because he was shook by the 147 division heating up? - Page 3

-Kev-

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Originally Posted by PBP

The question that matters is that if Floyd had Miguel Cotto @ 147, Margarito and Paul Williams on his resume, how would that change his ATG status?

I can't imagine it would have done much.

It would have justified Arum claiming Floyd was better than SRR, Ali, and Leonard. Beating those two future 1st ballot Hall of Famers would have done wonders.

All kidding aside, one win over Paul Williams would have sufficed. But it had to be before the first Quintana loss, or right after Williams blasted Quintana in 1 round.

Freedom2013

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Originally Posted by Rip Chudd

I was with you until the bold. He didn't enter 140 until 2004, Kostya was hurt at the time, after the Leija fight. Do you not remember or were you not watching boxing?

Why couldn't Floyd fight Tszyu at 140 before that?

Floyd made Hatton move up from 140 to 147 to fight him.

Floyd made JMM move up TWO DIVISIONS from 135 to 147 to fight him.

Why couldn't Floyd fight Kostya at 140?

The Gambler1981

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Originally Posted by -Kev-

It would have justified Arum claiming Floyd was better than SRR, Ali, and Leonard. Beating those two future 1st ballot Hall of Famers would have done wonders.

All kidding aside, one win over Paul Williams would have sufficed. But it had to be before the first Quintana loss, or right after Williams blasted Quintana in 1 round.

Quintana beat Williams what 6 months after Williams beat Margarito, a lot of time to make that fight~

CatchweightKing

Floyd after the Hatton fight, "I'm not trying to fight no welterweights"

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Aztec Wanker

Fighting the best fighters in your fourth weight class doesn't add to your resume???
Fraud had nothing left to prove??
F L O M O S are really ok with Fraud having Zab, Baldo, and full time promoter DLH instead of Cotto and Tony?
Am I really reading this?

Jack Napier

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Originally Posted by Aztec Wanker

Fighting the best fighters in your fourth weight class doesn't add to your resume???
Fraud had nothing left to prove??
F L O M O S are really ok with Fraud having Zab, Baldo, and full time promoter DLH instead of Cotto and Tony?
Am I really reading this?

they've been doing this shit for the last 5 yrs; "why should the lineal WW champion fight the best WW contenders?"

PBP

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Originally Posted by Aztec Wanker

Fighting the best fighters in your fourth weight class doesn't add to your resume???
Fraud had nothing left to prove??
F L O M O S are really ok with Fraud having Zab, Baldo, and full time promoter DLH instead of Cotto and Tony?
Am I really reading this?

I like how you changed my words around. I said ATG status, not "resume". Of course it adds to your resume. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. But does it add to your ATG status?

Say Floyd is top 50. How much higher would he be if he beat Paul Williams, Cotto and Margarito. 40? 30? 25? 10?

12TRIBEsRiSe

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Originally Posted by Freedom.

Why couldn't Floyd fight Tszyu at 140 before that?

Floyd made Hatton move up from 140 to 147 to fight him.

Floyd made JMM move up TWO DIVISIONS from 135 to 147 to fight him.

Why couldn't Floyd fight Kostya at 140?

why does everyone leave out the fact that JMM called out floyd and asked to come up in weight????????????

iseah100

God, I'm so sick of these threads. Floyd didn't fight the best he could've, we get it.

Augustane

De La Hoya and Hatton were huge fights. The fact that he won those means that he did put in the work and training to stay competitive in those.

After a while, your heart just isn't in it anymore.

Currently, I'm not surprised that Floyd is in it for the money and not the game. I can't say it's a good attitude, but it's worth understanding where he's probably coming from.

View Poll Results: Did Floyd "retire" in 2007 to avoid the top welterweights?
Yes, he was afraid of losing to them	191	85.27%
No, he just wanted a hiatus to spend more time with Ellerbe, like he said on TV	33	14.73%
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