floyd's success above 135 is mostly based on other..

[Aztec Wanker]

Originally Posted by IMDAZED

His resume at 140 isn't good but at 147 he may have the best resume among active fighters.

Imagine how great his resume could've been if hadn't retired in '08.

[IMDAZED]

Originally Posted by Aztec Wanker

Imagine how great his resume could've been if hadn't retired in '08.

Well depends on what he would have done with it. But wins over Cotto and Margarito would've certainly helped. But almost every great fighter misses a few en route to creating their legacy and that is why they are ultimately rated by their resume--who they fought and how they performed.

[-Kev-]

Dumb thread, TBH.

When Mayweather-Tszyu was at it's best moment to happen, which even Floyd called him out on HBO earlier that year, Tszyu and Mayweather fought in the same exact month vs Hatton and Gatti respectively. Mayweather dominated and destroyed Gatti, Hatton dominated and retired Tszyu. Hatton was not ready for Mayweather however.

Margarito was a TR fighter, Floyd had just left TR chasing for a DLH fight in 2006 because DLH said he will not work with Arum. DLH-Mayweather did not happen in 2006 as it was thought, because DLH wanted to get a belt so he fought Mayorga. In the meantime, Floyd fought WW lineal/Ring champion Carlos Baldomir.

Pacquiao had the chance to make the fight in 2010 but backed away from a 15 day cut off, which he himself had asked for. It was granted to him by Mayweather but he still backed out. Just like he told Martinez to come down to 150, Martinez said okay, but Pacquiao backed out.

[-Kev-]

Originally Posted by Aztec Wanker

Imagine how great his resume could've been if hadn't retired in '08.

Beating two non Hall of Famers like Margarito and Cotto, wouldn't have made his resume substantially better, just slightly better than now. Beating Cotto at 154 was the best win he could have gotten at the time at 154, because Cotto was the #1 ranked fighter. It was also a good fight, but it's not a really big win, and it wouldn't have been a big win even in 2004-2005 when Floyd wanted it in Top Rank, 2007-2008 when people were claiming Floyd was ducking him, or now in 2012. It's one of Floyd top name wins, but it's not one of his biggest win and never would have been no matter when he fought Cotto. Castillo, Corrales, De La Hoya, Marquez, Mosley, and Hatton were all seen as much better fights coming in. I'd also put Hernandez in front of Cotto. Cotto is a better win than Judah, Gatti, Chavez, Ortiz, Baldomir, Corley though and I would rate it as a higher win than Guerrero too.

[Aztec Wanker]

Originally Posted by -Kev-

Beating two non Hall of Famers like Margarito and Cotto, wouldn't have made his resume substantially better, just slightly better than now. Beating Cotto at 154 was the best win he could have gotten at the time at 154, because Cotto was the #1 ranked fighter. It was also a good fight, but it's not a really big win, and it wouldn't have been a big win even in 2004-2005 when Floyd wanted it in Top Rank, 2007-2008 when people were claiming Floyd was ducking him, or now in 2012. It's one of Floyd top name wins, but it's not one of his biggest win and never would have been no matter when he fought Cotto. Castillo, Corrales, De La Hoya, Marquez, Mosley, and Hatton were all seen as much better fights coming in. I'd also put Hernandez in front of Cotto. Cotto is a better win than Judah, Gatti, Chavez, Ortiz, Baldomir, Corley though and I would rate it as a higher win than Guerrero too.

I seriously can't believe you actually believe all that.

[citolindo]

Originally Posted by -Kev-

Beating two non Hall of Famers like Margarito and Cotto, wouldn't have made his resume substantially better, just slightly better than now. Beating Cotto at 154 was the best win he could have gotten at the time at 154, because Cotto was the #1 ranked fighter. It was also a good fight, but it's not a really big win, and it wouldn't have been a big win even in 2004-2005 when Floyd wanted it in Top Rank, 2007-2008 when people were claiming Floyd was ducking him, or now in 2012. It's one of Floyd top name wins, but it's not one of his biggest win and never would have been no matter when he fought Cotto. Castillo, Corrales, De La Hoya, Marquez, Mosley, and Hatton were all seen as much better fights coming in. I'd also put Hernandez in front of Cotto. Cotto is a better win than Judah, Gatti, Chavez, Ortiz, Baldomir, Corley though and I would rate it as a higher win than Guerrero too.

Come on bro cotto not going to the hall of fame is ridiculous. His name has been ringing bells in boxing for the last 10yrs or so. He gets in.

[MANIAC310]

Originally Posted by Aztec Wanker

I seriously can't believe you actually believe all that.

in Fraud nuthugger world

-Beating a prime undefeated Cotto at 147 doesn't compare to beating a shot Cotto at his worst weight

-Ducking a prime Margarito at WW doesn't mean anything because Fraud beat Baldomir

They actually believe this

[FeFist]

Only Floyd would get criticized for fighting the winner of a fight as opposed to the loser.

[puga]

Originally Posted by Pan-Africanist

Here we go again. "As much as it bothers you you guys just cant stand to see a black man with a gang of money in the bank." Suge Knight

i knew this would come up ...lol

Originally Posted by Jcsuper

kostya - got beat by hatton that floyd beat
margarito - got beat by shane that floyd beat
pacquiao- got beat by jmm that floyd beat


Lol, what do you want him to do ? Fight Kostya and not Hatton ? Haters like you would have said he is ducking Hatton and make 1003434 threads about it. Fight Margarito after he lost instead of Mosley ? Once again haters like you would have made 394802342 threads about how he would duck Mosley ( before he signs the fight people were already saying floyd would never fight Mosley.

Seriously guys, is this a thread to complain about the fact that Floyd is fighting people coming off wins instead of taking the loser ?

simple ..how about fight them while they were hot and not when they got destroyed..

Originally Posted by illmaticfighter

Guess he shouldve fought the loser

no , he should've fought them before they lost...

[MANIAC310]

Originally Posted by FeFist

Only Floyd would get criticized for fighting the winner of a fight as opposed to the loser.

Money aint neva gona get no credit dawg