So the murder rate has dropped <3% in the UK since the 1997 hangun ban. - Page 4

Left Hook Tua

anti-gun ppl like to use terms like ASSAULT WEAPONS and COP KILLER BULLETS and SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIALS.

it excites people.

then when it's time to write a law, they can't define it properly.

TensionKiller

I am not sure if I failed at working the murder rate but to me, with the stats on the murders on the link I showed, the rate is down by quite a high % from 800 to 550 for England and Wales and consider that out population has gone up too.

chav

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Originally Posted by Left Hook Tua

same gun.

same company.

same model.

same caliber ammo.

same design.

same everything.

guns are very simple things.

there's little mechanical difference between most designs.

the biggest problem with laws against so called assault weapons is defining it.

think of how to define an assault weapon and i'll show you a "normal" gun "regular" gunowners use.

I nearly edited my posted to say are they the same. To the untrained eye, they are worlds apart.

It's a minefield I know little about nor do i really want to explore it with you guys about the way forward in your current situation (no offence), but my gut feeling has been something has to change in America whenever I hear about another school shooting.
If it was adult co-workers shooting each other up, I would probably laugh, but I always feel bad for the kids and their families when another school gets lit up by a lunatic with a gun

Own3d

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Originally Posted by Left Hook Tua

anti-gun ppl like to use terms like ASSAULT WEAPONS and COP KILLER BULLETS and SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIALS.

it excites people.

then when it's time to write a law, they can't define it properly.

Assault rifles are full auto rifles, even i know that. LOL

Left Hook Tua

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Originally Posted by Own3d

Assault rifles are full auto rifles, even i know that. LOL

full auto guns have been illegal for like 50 years.

Own3d

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Originally Posted by Left Hook Tua

full auto guns have been illegal for like 50 years.

You mean regulated they aren't illegal.

Left Hook Tua

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Originally Posted by Own3d

You mean regulated they aren't illegal.

they're illegal.

not sure about the specifics.

but there was a freeze on them.

i think the only way you can buy one is to buy a used one and then there's hoops to jump and wallets greased to get it transferred.

Cuauhtémoc1520

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Originally Posted by Own3d

Assault rifles are full auto rifles, even i know that. LOL

Assault rifles can be semi auto like they are now. They also modify them to the point where they are just about automatic.

Continue1UP

Let them keep their guns and kill each other, it doesn't make a difference to me.

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