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View Poll Results: Who does Calzghe beat?
Cleverly 15 42.86%
Ward 11 31.43%
Dawson 5 14.29%
Froch 1 2.86%
Martinez 3 8.57%
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:51 PM
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indeed froch was a loudmouth who hadn't done much...in fact the majority of this board hated him for it

however dawson was regarded as the #1 lhw...he wasnt coming up, he already beat johnson and tarver after winning the title

a lot of people wanted to see calzaghe face dawson but he chose to fight jones, make that money and spend it on coke

Cal***gi openly admitted in 1999 that he was ducking prime roy jones:



"Calzaghe added: "I'm not chasing after Roy Jones. Be honest, Roy Jones is a good fighter and I don't want tough fights, I just want big money.

"I just want to make sure I never have to work again. I've got mouths to feed and that's the most important thing."
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To the Mirror in 1999. Proof he ducked Jones, he says it directly!

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Old 01-13-2013, 01:53 PM
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froch was a nobody when calzaghe retired, it would have been called a joke fight
dawson was just coming up and his claim to fame was only the wbc title
yeah and nobody called calzaghe-jones a joke fight...
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:55 PM
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An article by this title has appeared in Boxing Weekly, with Joe splashed across the cover. The five guys he is pitted against are:
1. Cleverly
2. Dawson
3. Froch
4. Martinez
5. Ward

Who do you think he beats/loses to?
he beats cleverly easily.

but ward, martinez and dawson would beat him easily, froch beats him in a competetive fight. it would be competetive due to their styles, froch is a much better fighters though.

bottom line is with the exception of cleverly all these fighters proved themselves to a different degree than calzaghe and earned the right to be held in higher regard.
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froch was a nobody when calzaghe retired, it would have been called a joke fight
if it was a joke fight then it was no more a joke than almost every defence Calzaghe made of his title, so thats really no argument at all. What you are actually saying is that Joe SHOULD have picked Froch, based on his past choices of opponents. But he didnt - so obviously Froch WASNT a joke fight - it was a bout that Joe was likely to have lost.

Absolute truth is, years ago Joe Calzaghe offered Froch a fight when Froch was green, was seen another young bum and had done nothing, but once Carl had established himself as a threat Joe was suddenly not interested anymore. Like I said, its the Cowardzaghe thing however you spin it.


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dawson was just coming up and his claim to fame was only the wbc title
Sounds on par for Joe, who only ever defended the single WBO title himself - Dawson's WBC title was worth more than that! And Jones and Hopkins had no actual titles, plus were at least 50% of what they were in contrast to Dawson who was 100% prime. Dawson was the logical fight, not the old guys. Again, its got Cowardzaghe scrawled all over it. But it was a good business decision, apparent guaranteed wins over oldies who couldnt last the distance for good money abroad.

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Old 01-13-2013, 02:06 PM
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yeah and nobody called calzaghe-jones a joke fight...
if he fought froch it'd be called a "domestic" joke fight and it did seem calzaghe had plenty of those
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:15 PM
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if he fought froch it'd be called a "domestic" joke fight and it did seem calzaghe had plenty of those
calzaghe wanted to end his career as not just a domestic joke but as an international joke.
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should have made the votes multiple choice, he beats most of them, even ward. but you can never make a thread about him on here because bitter Hopkins fans who cry about him beating them. and they hate seeing a fighter of his skin color being undefeated.
1- You are not a Calzaghe fan. Stop trying to be one.

2- Does it confuse you and people like you why a lot of Calzaghe fans are also fans of Lewis, Eubank, Benn? Do you guys stretch your heads and go WTF???



3- Calzaghe utterly dominates today's division. The only guy he will lose 4 rounds to is Ward.

LMFAO @Froch
Calzaghe will slap the living shyt out of Froch. 12-0.


People forget Calzaghe beat the very best and prime version of Mikeel Kessler. That version of Mikell beats everyone easily outside of Ward today.


4- Calzaghe wasn't prime for Hopkins or Jones...

This is like saying Lewis was prime for Tyson.

The reason Calzaghe looked so amazing and prime against Jones was because Jones was even more past prime than Calzaghe.

Just like the reason Lewis looked so amazing against Tyson.


Both Calzaghe and Lewis were still elite but no longer prime against Hopkins-Tyson-Jones.
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:37 PM
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Some of you only like Froch because Ward already beat him.

So by talking up Froch= talking up Ward.

Calzaghe was better than Froch will ever be.

Calzaghe was better than Ward now.

Calzaghe dominated the 168 and is the greatest SMW of all times

He also made RJJ Bleed.
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3- Calzaghe utterly dominates today's division. The only guy he will lose 4 rounds to is Ward.

LMFAO @Froch
Calzaghe will slap the living shyt out of Froch. 12-0.


People forget Calzaghe beat the very best and prime version of Mikeel Kessler. That version of Mikell beats everyone easily outside of Ward today.
people forget calzaghe wasnt that accurate a puncher even though he had one of the highest workrates of any smw and there werent any smws around who could come close to ward's defense and movement...

ward dominated kessler for 11 rounds...calzaghe won 8-4...in that 2 year span kessler didnt look any worse or better than he had looked pre that loss
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calzaghe wanted to end his career as not just a domestic joke but as an international joke.
As I watch your failed ongoing crusade against Calzaghe, I notice you never mention he destroyed all these great fighters while dealing with alcoholism, cocaine abuse and wild sex with strippers.

Not even Joe Louis could juggle greatness and the nightlife without taking an L. Marciano had to live like a monk to keep his zero. Calzaghe did it without sacrifice. He's a Man & a half.
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