There has not been a Lineal Heavyweight Champ for almost 10 years.

[Earl Hickey]

Originally Posted by BattlingNelson

Lineage and undisputed are two different things.

If you believe that lineage is reestablished when a fight between the no.1 and no.2 (sometimes 3) then Wlad became linear champ when beating Chagaev.

If you need to be undisputed to claim lineage then you'll not have any linear champs today.


Going by your standard then who did Tyson beat to become lineal champ?

Spinks.

The exact lineage is here

http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a...avyweights.htm

[BennyST]

Originally Posted by Halls of Fame

http://boxinghalloffame.com/history/...-of-the-world/
as you see, Wlad is the lineal champ since beating Chagaev in 2009

Hmmm, interesting. Who is the Las Vegas Boxing HOF anyway out of curiosity? Is there actually an official linear organisation?

[Halls of Fame]

Originally Posted by BennyST

Hmmm, interesting. Who is the Las Vegas Boxing HOF anyway out of curiosity? Is there actually an official linear organisation?

Las Vegas HOF was founded last year. Steve Lott is the CEO over there - Steve is a very credible boxing historian in my opinion.

[Skittlez]

Wlad and Vitali... combined =Lineal champ.

Just like in everything else that mattered
it takes TWO Klitschkos to = one Lewis

[Earl Hickey]

Originally Posted by BennyST

Hmmm, interesting. Who is the Las Vegas Boxing HOF anyway out of curiosity? Is there actually an official linear organisation?

that looks like some Mickey Mouse site, who knicked CYBERZONE Boxings list.

Fact is if we are considering Wladamir to have established linearity without beating a DOMINANT legitimate WBC champion then we are setting a dangerous precident imo.

I don't belive in granting the Klitschkos special privellages because they are brothers.

[MakeItRain]

I don't think it matters to them. They run the heavyweight division anyway. They beat the best opponents out there. Wlad said he not fighting his bro, it sucks but it's understandable.

[Halls of Fame]

Originally Posted by Earl Hickey

that looks like some Mickey Mouse site, who knicked CYBERZONE Boxings list.

Fact is if we are considering Wladamir to have established linearity without beating a DOMINANT legitimate WBC champion then we are setting a dangerous precident imo.

I don't belive in granting the Klitschkos special privellages because they are brothers.

The only thing that looks like a "Mickey Mouse" site is the link you posted. And your whole thread here is based on your link. Problem is the link is not updated and it stops showing the lineal champ in 2004. And that is all your thread here is based on. My link is updated and shows that since beating Chagaev in 2009, Klitschko is considered the new lineal champ. Deal with it.

[Earl Hickey]

Originally Posted by Halls of Fame

The only thing that looks like a "Mickey Mouse" site is the link you posted. And your whole thread here is based on your link. Problem is the link is not updated and it stops showing the lineal champ in 2004. And that is all your thread here is based on. My link is updated and shows that since beating Chagaev in 2009, Klitschko is considered the new lineal champ. Deal with it.

you work there, dont you.

[BattlingNelson]

Originally Posted by Earl Hickey

Spinks.

The exact lineage is here

http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a...avyweights.htm

The problem, by your standard, is that Spinks didn't have an alphabet belt. By your standards Tyson was already undisputed when he beat linear champion Spinks.

The lineage is here:

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/achamp.htm

[Earl Hickey]

Originally Posted by BattlingNelson

The problem, by your standard, is that Spinks didn't have an alphabet belt. By your standards Tyson was already undisputed when he beat linear champion Spinks.

The lineage is here:

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/achamp.htm

which belt are we missing?

WBO? that wasn't classed as a real title until at least the mid 90's

if you are of the opinion Wlad is lineal, that's your opinion, mine is that he isn't, but can, and probably will be when he eventually mops up the WBC