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Old 01-03-2013, 10:24 AM
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How can you possibly believe this crap about parkinsons dude? The ****ing dr hasn't even examined him.
Who said i believe this? I was responding to the other poster who said this is just an excuse to justify the lost to jmm. Whether this is true or not who the hell who use such an excuse?? Shiietz is just wrong to even think like that.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:28 AM
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Who said i believe this? I was responding to the other poster who said this is just an excuse to justify the lost to jmm. Whether this is true or not who the hell who use such an excuse?? Shiietz is just wrong to even think like that.
frankly, I think rapid counter is right on this one. It seems like after the fact excuse making. what kind of medical professional would speculate about parkinsons without doing any testing? I get your point about who would do something so sick, but we are not talking about rational everyday things.

I find it despicable that the newspaper would even print this without real proof.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:31 AM
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Who said i believe this? I was responding to the other poster who said this is just an excuse to justify the lost to jmm. Whether this is true or not who the hell who use such an excuse?? Shiietz is just wrong to even think like that.
So you don't believe this? Which excuse do you believe? Maybe because he wasn't wearing his Rosary beads right? Nah, can't be that, who the hell would make up such an excuse?
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:40 AM
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I think I read somewhere Parkinson's disease is not related to blows to the head. Or something like, test results haven't been conclusive enough to say that boxing or blows to the head cause Parkinson's disease. I could be wrong and I'm on my phone so I'm too lazy to look it up again.


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Old 01-03-2013, 10:50 AM
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I call bullshit, has there ever been a fighter with as many excuses following him around as Manny? From leg cramps, to car accidents to religions to blood draining to itchy socks to wrong shoes...it goes on and on. This 'doctor' in question hasn't even met Manny Plankquiao but claims he has the disease by watching some tv interview?

I'm sure a man as wealthy as Plankquiao has a team of highly trained specialists looking after him. He doesn't need some attention seeking internet blogger making ridiculous claims or worse yet, making bogus excuses.

I guess you gotta find some way to downplay the performance of a fat, past prime, 40 year old fighter, otherwise, Manny just isn't as spectacular as everyone thought he was.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:53 AM
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I think I read somewhere Parkinson's disease is not related to blows to the head. Or something like, test results haven't been conclusive enough to say that boxing or blows to the head cause Parkinson's disease. I could be wrong and I'm on my phone so I'm too lazy to look it up again.


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Plenty of people who never boxed a day in their lives have Parkinson's. Very little is known about its cause. I think it is linked to boxing because of Muhammed Ali. I bet if you look at the number of boxers that have Parkinson's, the percentage wouldn't be any higher than people who mow lawns for a living. That's just my opinion of course.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:54 AM
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Can anyone post video of Pac twitching.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:58 AM
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Can anyone post video of Pac twitching.
Yeah, I'd like to see this as well.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:02 AM
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Yeah, I'd like to see this as well.
count me in i need to see it also!! i was too lazy to read the article i thought he actually was seen by a doctor WTFIIIZUCK
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:19 AM
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MANILA, Philippines – A neurologist on Thursday said he has been observing early signs of Parkinson's disease from Filipino boxing icon Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao.

Dr. Rustico Jimenez, President of Private Hospitals Association of the Philippines, told radio dzMM that among the early signs of Parkinson's being exhibited by Pacquiao include stuttering and hand twitching.

Jimenez urged the Filipino champion to retire from boxing in order to avoid what happened to Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay) and award-winning trainer Freddie Roach who were both afflicted with the progressive disorder of the nervous system.

"Kung ako naman ang tatanungin, siguro dapat mag-retiro ang ating pambansang hero na si Manny," he said.

"Lalo pong nadadagdagan ang trauma, lalo pong magkakaroon siya ng problema. Pwedeng later on Alzheimer's disease naman."

In a separate phone interview, Jimenez clarified that he could be wrong with his observations, but nevertheless told Pacquiao to be cautious.

He said while he has not met Pacquiao to personally check on his condition, his hand twitches during television interviews should be a cause for concern.

"Yung movement, although mabilis ang reflexes, napapansin ko lang - another view or personal view lang naman ang sa akin - parang may early signs," he said.

"May mga movements napapansin mo sa kamay. Sa kamay usually, sa ulo hindi natin makikita agad, nagtu-twitch ng konti. Although I haven't seen very close, parang nakikita ko lang mayroong ganoon."

Chronic trauma

This is not the first time that a medical expert raised concerns over Pacquiao's health.

Dr. Raquel Fortun, a renowned forensics expert in the country, earlier said she is not convinced with the CT scan results clearing Manny Pacquiao following his knockout loss to Mexican foe Juan Manuel Marquez.

She said severe head trauma could lead to Alzheimer’s disease or a form of dementia that worsens over time.

She said several studies have been done on the effect of chronic trauma or repeated hits to the head among athletes, particularly boxers and football players.

Fortun said the knockout punch that hit Pacquiao was actually 2 hits: when Marquez's fist connected with Pacquiao's face and when the boxing champ fell face down on the canvass.

"Delikado yun. Pag naalog yan yung utak mo kasi hindi fixed na fixed yan sa bungo so pag naaalog ang utak, may napu-putol putol na connections. May mga small hemorrhages ka," she said.

She said a severe blow to the head could damage the dura mater, which is a membrane that surrounds the brain. Once damaged, it could lead to a subdural hematoma.

The forensic expert expressed alarm over reports that Pacquiao allegedly had a slight seizure after falling unconscious from Marquez's hammer blow to the head. – with David Dizon, ABS-CBNnews.com
I think Pac has always stuttered.
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