HOF/ATG Poll: Pac ahead of Floyd for ATG - Page 11

R-NEAL

This is mostly about a like-ability factor. People just use Floyd's resume as a cover up. The so called threats that Manny fought were also coming off losses or not far removed from severe beating. You can equally poke holes in Manny resume also. So now it comes down to who is more of a fan favorite.. one of the downsides to Floyd playing the villian role all of the time.

4Corners

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Originally Posted by A-Wolf

This crybaby needs some jizz.

Floyd's formula. Enjoy.

No. I just recognize when people make ignorant claims, and you do fairly often.

12TRIBEsRiSe · 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by A-Wolf

4C, when were the times Floyd was in a match he had any chance of losing? Corrales? ..........

whens the last time you drove without the possibility of a wreck?

Mr. Philadel

good arguments being made for BOTH dudes in here...good stuff my dudes!!

I really never thought about who's greater between the 2 as of late....I used to think Manny was and then thought Floyd was...but now, I'm no longer concerned with the fight for number 2 or 3...the GREATEST active fighter in the game is BERNARD HOPKINS atm....BOOM!!

whirlwind · 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by R-NEAL

This is mostly about a like-ability factor. People just use Floyd's resume as a cover up. The so called threats that Manny fought were also coming off losses or not far removed from severe beating. You can equally poke holes in Manny resume also. So now it comes down to who is more of a fan favorite.. one of the downsides to Floyd playing the villian role all of the time.

Floyd faked his retirement when he should fought decade younger Mosley and Cotto. He also avoided Margarito like a plague. The 3 fighters he should fought didn't happen instead he let them fought one another and when the dust settled down he came out from nowhere then declared his himself the GOAT. LMAO!

Big Dunn

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Originally Posted by whirlwind

Floyd faked his retirement when he should fought decade younger Mosley and Cotto. He also avoided Margarito like a plague.

of course these things aren't true but hey, when manny gets humiliated all the more reason to lie about floyd.

illmaticfighter

neither resume above 135 is all that great imo.

pac has some good wins an bad ones one that stands out is the Bradley win,but officially he lost that fight in the Bradley fight and hatton.

Floyd has some good wins some bad ones as well,ones that stand out with him were hatton and oscar.

difference is floyd has a opportunity here with canelo,sergio and a solid win against guerroro if manny doesn't come back strong i think floyd surpasses him.

manny has a great 135 and below resume but he lost once should've lost 3 times imo.

then he was koed in his early career.

floyd dominated 130 and 135 with one blemish the first castillo fight so it's your decision i pick floyd's dominance with one blemish over pac's dominance with about 6 loses or 7 loses.

12TRIBEsRiSe · 10:02 AM

THE PACMANS LEGENDARY RECORD, LOL

Who in the hell is 90% of these guys, two of them ko'ed THE PACMAN!His record is funny as hell. Only Marquez,Eric Marrales, and Barrera are the only ones worth mentioning on his record, every body else were coming off losses, on the down side of there career.

1995
01-22 -- Edmund Enting Ignacio, Mindoro Occidental, Philippines, W 4
03-18 -- Pinoy Montejo, Mindoro Occidental, Philippines, W 4
05-01 -- Rocky Palma, Cavite, Philippines, W 6
07-01 -- Dele Decierto, Mandaluyong, Philippines, TKO 2
08-03 -- Flash Simbajon, Mandaluyong, Philippines, W 6
09-16 -- Arman Rocil, Mandaluyong, Philippines, KO 3
10-07 -- Lolito Laroa, Makati, Philippines, W 8
10-21 -- Renato Mendones, Puerto Princesa, Philippines, TKO 2
11-11 -- Rodulfo Fernandez, Mandaluyong, Philippines, TKO 3
12-09 -- Rolando Tuyugon, Manila, Philippines, W 10

1996
01-13 -- Lito Torrejos, Paranaque City, Philippines, TKO 5
02-09 -- Rustico Torrecampo, Mandaluyong, Philippines, KO by 3
04-27 -- Marlon Carillo, Manila, Philippines, W 10
05-20 -- Jun Medina, Manila, Philippines, TKO 4
06-15 -- Bert Batiller, General Santos City, Philippines, TKO 4
07-27 -- Ippo Gala, Mandaluyong, Philippines, TKO 2
12-28 -- Sung-Yul Lee, Muntinlupa, Philippines, TKO 2

03-08 -- Michael Luna, Muntinlupa, Philippines, KO 1
04-24 -- Wook-Ki Lee, Makati, Philippines, KO 1
05-30 -- Ariel Austria, Almendras, Philippines, TKO 6
06-26 -- Chokchai Chockvivat, Mandaluyong, Philippines, KO 5
09-13 -- Melvin Magramo, Cebu, Philippines, W 10
12-06 -- Panomdej Or Yuthanakorn, South Cotabato, Philippines, KO 1

1998
05-18 -- Shin Terao, Tokyo, Japan, TKO 1
12-04 -- Chartchai Sasakul, Bangkok, Thailand, TKO 8
(Won WBC Flyweight Title)

1999
02-20 -- Todd Makelin, Kidapawan, Philippines, TKO 3
04-24 -- Gabriel Mira, Quezon City, Philippines, KO 4
(Retained WBC Flyweight Title)
09-17 -- Medgoen Singsurat, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand, KO by 3
(Pacquiao failed to make weight, lost WBC Flyweight title)
12-18 -- Reynante Jamili, Manila, Philippines, TKO 2

2000
03-04 -- Arnel Barotillo, Manila, Philippines, KO 4
06-28 -- Seung-Kon Chae, Manila, Philippines, TKO 1
10-14 -- Nedal Hussein, Antipolo City, Philippines, TKO 10

2001
02-24 -- Tetsutora Senrima, Manila, Philippines, TKO 5
04-28 -- Wethya Sakmuangklang, Kidapawan City, Philippines, TKO 6
06-23 -- Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, Las Vegas, NV, TKO 6
(Won IBF Super Bantamweight Title)
11-10 -- Agapito Sánchez, San Francisco, CA, Tech Draw 6
(For WBO Super Bantamweight Title)
(Retained IBF Super Bantamweight Title)

2002
06-08 -- Jorge Eliecer Julio, Memphis, TN, TKO 2
(Retained IBF Super Bantamweight Title)
10-26 -- Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym, Davao City, Philippines, KO 1
(Retained IBF Super Bantamweight Title)

2003
03-15 -- Serikzhan Yeshmangbetov, Manila, Philippines, TKO 5
07-26 -- Emmanuel Lucero, Los Angeles, CA, TKO 3
(Retained IBF Super Bantamweight Title)
11-15 -- Marco Antonio Barrera, San Antonio, TX, TKO 11

2004
05-08 -- Juan Manuel Marquez, Las Vegas, NV, D 12
(For WBC Featherweight Title)
(For IBF Featherweight Title)
12-11 -- Fahsan (3K Battery) Por Thawatchai, Rizal, Philippines, TKO 4

2005
03-19 -- Erik Morales, Las Vegas, NV, L 12 *RECAP*
09-10 -- Hector Velazquez, Los Angeles, CA, TKO 6

2006
01-21 -- Erik Morales, Las Vegas, NV, TKO 10 *RECAP*
07-02 -- Oscar Larios, Manila, Philippines, W 12
11-18 -- Erik Morales, Las Vegas, NV, KO 3 *RECAP*

2007
04-14 -- Jorge Solis, San Antonio, TX, KO 8 *RECAP*
10-06 -- Marco Antonio Barrera, Las Vegas, NV, W 12 *RECAP*

2008
03-15 -- Juan Manuel Marquez, Las Vegas, NV, W 12 *RECAP*
(Won WBC Super Featherweight Title)
06-28 -- David Diaz "WHO", Las Vegas, NV, TKO 9 *RECAP*
(Won WBC Lightweight Title)
12-06 -- Recently beat up and coming off losing streak by Mayeather Oscar De La Hoya, Las Vegas, NV, TKO 8 *RECAP*
2009
05-02 -- coming off losing streak recently beat up and ko'ed by Mayweather Ricky Hatton, Las Vegas, NV, KO 2 *RECAP*

11-14 -- coming off losing streak recently beat up and ko'edby Margarita Miguel Cotto, Las Vegas, NV, TKO 12 *RECAP*(Won WBO Welterweight Title)

2010
03-13 -- flat footed, paid off and coming off losing streak by Cotto, Joshua Clottey (IMO), Arlington, TX, W 12 *RECAP*
(Retained WBO Welterweight Title)

11-13 -- coming off losing streak recently beat up and ko'ed by Moesly SUSPENDED AND THEN COMES BACK AFTER FIGHTING A GUY WHO IS BARELY ON WIKIPEDIA N GETS A SHOT AT PAC MAN FOR A 154 TITLE??? Antonio Margarito, Arlington, TX, W 12 *RECAP*
(Won Vacant WBC Light Middleweight Title)

2011
05-07 -- old coming off losing streak recently beat up and almost tko'ed by Mayweather, AFTER ROACH SAID HE WOULDNT FIGHT HIM 2 YEARS PRIOR, BUT FIGHTS HIM AFTER THE WORST FIGHT IVE EVER SEEN WITH SEGIO MORA.... Shane Mosley, Las Vegas, NV, W 12 *RECAP*
(Retained WBO Welterweight Title)

2012

LOST TO MARQUEZ BUT GOT A GIFT

BRADLEY I FELT PAC WON BUT NOT AS BAD AS EVERYONE MADE IT OUT TO BE...

ZZZZZZZZZZ....

so yes he has a good resume but can anyone explain to me whats so special? and yes some arguments can be made about floyds resume too i agree...

whirlwind · 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe

THE PACMANS LEGENDARY RECORD, LOL

Who in the hell is 90% of these guys, two of them ko'ed THE PACMAN!His record is funny as hell. Only Marquez,Eric Marrales, and Barrera are the only ones worth mentioning on his record, every body else were coming off losses, on the down side of there career.

1995
01-22 -- Edmund Enting Ignacio, Mindoro Occidental, Philippines, W 4
03-18 -- Pinoy Montejo, Mindoro Occidental, Philippines, W 4
05-01 -- Rocky Palma, Cavite, Philippines, W 6
07-01 -- Dele Decierto, Mandaluyong, Philippines, TKO 2
08-03 -- Flash Simbajon, Mandaluyong, Philippines, W 6
09-16 -- Arman Rocil, Mandaluyong, Philippines, KO 3
10-07 -- Lolito Laroa, Makati, Philippines, W 8
10-21 -- Renato Mendones, Puerto Princesa, Philippines, TKO 2
11-11 -- Rodulfo Fernandez, Mandaluyong, Philippines, TKO 3
12-09 -- Rolando Tuyugon, Manila, Philippines, W 10

1996
01-13 -- Lito Torrejos, Paranaque City, Philippines, TKO 5
02-09 -- Rustico Torrecampo, Mandaluyong, Philippines, KO by 3
04-27 -- Marlon Carillo, Manila, Philippines, W 10
05-20 -- Jun Medina, Manila, Philippines, TKO 4
06-15 -- Bert Batiller, General Santos City, Philippines, TKO 4
07-27 -- Ippo Gala, Mandaluyong, Philippines, TKO 2
12-28 -- Sung-Yul Lee, Muntinlupa, Philippines, TKO 2

03-08 -- Michael Luna, Muntinlupa, Philippines, KO 1
04-24 -- Wook-Ki Lee, Makati, Philippines, KO 1
05-30 -- Ariel Austria, Almendras, Philippines, TKO 6
06-26 -- Chokchai Chockvivat, Mandaluyong, Philippines, KO 5
09-13 -- Melvin Magramo, Cebu, Philippines, W 10
12-06 -- Panomdej Or Yuthanakorn, South Cotabato, Philippines, KO 1

1998
05-18 -- Shin Terao, Tokyo, Japan, TKO 1
12-04 -- Chartchai Sasakul, Bangkok, Thailand, TKO 8
(Won WBC Flyweight Title)

1999
02-20 -- Todd Makelin, Kidapawan, Philippines, TKO 3
04-24 -- Gabriel Mira, Quezon City, Philippines, KO 4
(Retained WBC Flyweight Title)
09-17 -- Medgoen Singsurat, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand, KO by 3
(Pacquiao failed to make weight, lost WBC Flyweight title)
12-18 -- Reynante Jamili, Manila, Philippines, TKO 2

2000
03-04 -- Arnel Barotillo, Manila, Philippines, KO 4
06-28 -- Seung-Kon Chae, Manila, Philippines, TKO 1
10-14 -- Nedal Hussein, Antipolo City, Philippines, TKO 10

2001
02-24 -- Tetsutora Senrima, Manila, Philippines, TKO 5
04-28 -- Wethya Sakmuangklang, Kidapawan City, Philippines, TKO 6
06-23 -- Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, Las Vegas, NV, TKO 6
(Won IBF Super Bantamweight Title)
11-10 -- Agapito Sánchez, San Francisco, CA, Tech Draw 6
(For WBO Super Bantamweight Title)
(Retained IBF Super Bantamweight Title)

2002
06-08 -- Jorge Eliecer Julio, Memphis, TN, TKO 2
(Retained IBF Super Bantamweight Title)
10-26 -- Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym, Davao City, Philippines, KO 1
(Retained IBF Super Bantamweight Title)

2003
03-15 -- Serikzhan Yeshmangbetov, Manila, Philippines, TKO 5
07-26 -- Emmanuel Lucero, Los Angeles, CA, TKO 3
(Retained IBF Super Bantamweight Title)
11-15 -- Marco Antonio Barrera, San Antonio, TX, TKO 11

2004
05-08 -- Juan Manuel Marquez, Las Vegas, NV, D 12
(For WBC Featherweight Title)
(For IBF Featherweight Title)
12-11 -- Fahsan (3K Battery) Por Thawatchai, Rizal, Philippines, TKO 4

2005
03-19 -- Erik Morales, Las Vegas, NV, L 12 *RECAP*
09-10 -- Hector Velazquez, Los Angeles, CA, TKO 6

2006
01-21 -- Erik Morales, Las Vegas, NV, TKO 10 *RECAP*
07-02 -- Oscar Larios, Manila, Philippines, W 12
11-18 -- Erik Morales, Las Vegas, NV, KO 3 *RECAP*

2007
04-14 -- Jorge Solis, San Antonio, TX, KO 8 *RECAP*
10-06 -- Marco Antonio Barrera, Las Vegas, NV, W 12 *RECAP*

2008
03-15 -- Juan Manuel Marquez, Las Vegas, NV, W 12 *RECAP*
(Won WBC Super Featherweight Title)
06-28 -- David Diaz "WHO", Las Vegas, NV, TKO 9 *RECAP*
(Won WBC Lightweight Title)
12-06 -- Recently beat up and coming off losing streak by Mayeather Oscar De La Hoya, Las Vegas, NV, TKO 8 *RECAP*
2009
05-02 -- coming off losing streak recently beat up and ko'ed by Mayweather Ricky Hatton, Las Vegas, NV, KO 2 *RECAP*

11-14 -- coming off losing streak recently beat up and ko'edby Margarita Miguel Cotto, Las Vegas, NV, TKO 12 *RECAP*(Won WBO Welterweight Title)

2010
03-13 -- flat footed, paid off and coming off losing streak by Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Arlington, TX, W 12 *RECAP*
(Retained WBO Welterweight Title)

11-13 -- coming off losing streak recently beat up and ko'ed by Moesly SUSPENDED AND THEN COMES BACK AFTER FIGHTING A GUY WHO IS BARELY ON WIKIPEDIA N GETS A SHOT AT PAC MAN FOR A 154 TITLE??? Antonio Margarito, Arlington, TX, W 12 *RECAP*
(Won Vacant WBC Light Middleweight Title)

2011
05-07 -- old coming off losing streak recently beat up and almost tko'ed by Mayweather, AFTER ROACH SAID HE WOULDT FIGHT HIM 2 YEARS PRIOR Shane Mosley, Las Vegas, NV, W 12 *RECAP*
(Retained WBO Welterweight Title)

2012

LOST TO MARQUEZ BUT GOT A GIFT

BRADLEY I FELT PAC WON BUT NOT AS BAD AS EVERYONE MADE IT OUT TO BE...

ZZZZZZZZZZ....

so yes he has a good resume but can anyone explain to me whats so special? and yes some arguments can be made about floyds resume too i agree...

Certainly you are stupid as fruck. Tell me one fighter who accomplished these achievements under his belt.

pro boxer at age of 16 and fought all the way from minimum weight up to light middleweight
8 weight divisions champion
4 weight divisions lineal champion
p4p no. 1 straight in 5 years
Fighter of the Decade and 3 times Fighter of the Year
a beloved congressman in his country

Easy to achieve? Please wake me up when your boy achieves even half of these accomplishments in his lifetime otherwise you shut the fruck up and go back to your stinky hole.

GoldSugar

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Originally Posted by WARQUEZ

Marquez's win over Pacquiao is greater than any win Floyd has on his resume.

FACT.

Lamotta beating Robinson is better than anything on Pac and Floyd's resume combined but who is higher ATG?

Anyone wanting to seriously list these guys need to cough up a list of where and why because I highly doubt they can.

They are both first ballot HOFers so who cares?

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R-NEAL Contender Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 117 Rep Power: 1 Points: 3,509.01 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 3,509.01 Donate	This is mostly about a like-ability factor. People just use Floyd's resume as a cover up. The so called threats that Manny fought were also coming off losses or not far removed from severe beating. You can equally poke holes in Manny resume also. So now it comes down to who is more of a fan favorite.. one of the downsides to Floyd playing the villian role all of the time.

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