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View Poll Results: Are these fighters HOF or ATG?
Pac is HOF 35 50.72%
Pac is ATG 61 88.41%
Floyd is HOF 28 40.58%
Floyd is barely ATG 31 44.93%
Marquez is HOF 39 56.52%
Marquez is ATG 36 52.17%
Wlad is HOF 39 56.52%
Wlad is ATG 18 26.09%
Oscar is HOF 49 71.01%
Oscar is ATG 25 36.23%
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:35 PM
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Default HOF or ATG? Fighters on the Line

I've got 5 borderliners who are clearly HOF. But, are they ATG? 1. Oscar De LaHoya; 2. Mannie Pacquiao; 3. Floyd Mayweather, Jr.; 4. Wladimere Klitschko; 5. Juan Manuel Marquez.

Let's see the vote.
edit the cutoff at Top 50 ATG for clarity.
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Old 01-01-2013, 07:41 PM
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I've got 5 borderliners who are clearly HOF. But, are they ATG? 1. Oscar De LaHoya; 2. Mannie Pacquiao; 3. Floyd Mayweather, Jr.; 4. Wladimere Klitschko; 5. Juan Manuel Marquez.

Let's see the vote.
Depends on what you go by Top 50 or Top 100 ATG?
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:00 PM
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Depends on what you go by Top 50 or Top 100 ATG?
Top 50. Just trying for a general impression here. The Oscar issue is interesting.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:04 PM
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Pacquiao and Mayweather are All Time Greats

Marquez is very close to ATG, but a great hall of famer. Tough one.

Wlad and Hoya are hall of famers.

my 2 pennies.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:06 PM
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Floyd is ATG.

Dunno why you put "barely ATG" in the poll but I clicked that option since it wasn't just HOF.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:08 PM
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Floyd is ATG.

Dunno why you put "barely ATG" in the poll but I clicked that option since it wasn't just HOF.
I did that to encourage the Floyd haters to vote their conscience.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:11 PM
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I'm both a Pacquiao fan and Mayweather fan, I don't swing pro Money/anti-Pacman nor Pro Pacman/Anti-Money.
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Pacquiao and Mayweather are All Time Greats

Marquez is very close to ATG, but a great hall of famer. Tough one.

Wlad and Hoya are hall of famers.

my 2 pennies.
I think that about sums it up for me as well. Wlad had losses against lower level guys and no great rivals to showcase himself against once he reached his stride. So that rules him out, great none the less. Oscar lost several of his biggest fights, but he also fought everyone out there. A lot of guys would have more losses if they fought everyone like Oscar. So he's out although a clear hall of famer. Marquez is the one I have the hardest time with. He (in my eyes) only has one actual loss (mayweather obviously.) if the record reflected that, an argument could be made that he is an all time great.
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Old 01-01-2013, 08:25 PM
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I think that about sums it up for me as well. Wlad had losses against lower level guys and no great rivals to showcase himself against once he reached his stride. So that rules him out, great none the less. Oscar lost several of his biggest fights, but he also fought everyone out there. A lot of guys would have more losses if they fought everyone like Oscar. So he's out although a clear hall of famer. Marquez is the one I have the hardest time with. He (in my eyes) only has one actual loss (mayweather obviously.) if the record reflected that, an argument could be made that he is an all time great.
Agreed. What's interesting here is that a few years ago, Oscar would have been a shoe-in ATG. This is the decision of time. Also note that Pac is outracing Floyd to ATG. Intriguing.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:51 PM
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mayweather pac and marquez are ATG to me....

oscard lost most of his big fights
the book is still out on wlad


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